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to feel like less of a person because I've never had a relationship?

62 replies

AureliainBlack · 19/02/2021 18:43

I'm not particularly lonely or unhappy, but I feel like I am in a glass bubble, just watching everyone else.

My friends are starting to talk about settling down, planning weddings and babies. I'm so pleased for them but it feels like a different life to mine, one I can't even begin to imagine.

Would you judge someone who was 29 and never dated? Do you think it radiates off me, that I'm weird and unloveable?

OP posts:
foodiefil · 20/02/2021 11:48

@applesandoranges221 Hi Apples hope you don't mind me asking you this. I have a friend who is in this exact position, 33 (we both are) and no relationship ever. One sexual experience with a man when we were 22 that i think was done to "get it over with". I would like to talk to her about this. Not to stick my nose in but we are all now at the stage where we are married and having children and she says "when I have a baby, when I get married" but I'm concerned that this stage of her life will pass her by because we (her friendship group) are past the going out on the pull stage and she won't do online dating. But I want to talk to her so that in 20 years time there's not a moment where we are talking and she says she wishes someone had helped her. She had a bit of a meltdown on her birthday recently. I think somewhat related to this but she put it down to just "getting older".

I know you aren't the same person and only know what I've told you but can you give me any advice for approaching her about this?
TIA

Bloodypunkrockers · 20/02/2021 18:54

Have we had the posters yet with their shite

If it's meant to be
It'll happen when you're not looking
If you really want it it'll happe

All shite

None of that is true

I really hope you find email someone OP. I've had to reconcile myself with the fact that I'll never have a relationship. It a horrible thought but no matter how much I want it. No one wants me

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 20/02/2021 19:22

Oh yes dreadful inane platitudes,that add nothing and are really trite

Lweji · 20/02/2021 19:34

I'm with someone who hadn't been in a relationship before. He is much older than you. And he's lovely. He is quite shy and it took him a long time to take a step forward. To the point I started wondering if he would ever.

So, no judgement from me here.

My advice would be to go on dates. Think of them as just having company to do fun things or to go out. No pressure.

Don't be nervous. You'll be judging them.
Don't bother flirting. Just be nice, be interested and open.

Then decide if you want a relationship. And in what terms.

ColdBrightClearMorning · 20/02/2021 20:18

[quote foodiefil]@applesandoranges221 Hi Apples hope you don't mind me asking you this. I have a friend who is in this exact position, 33 (we both are) and no relationship ever. One sexual experience with a man when we were 22 that i think was done to "get it over with". I would like to talk to her about this. Not to stick my nose in but we are all now at the stage where we are married and having children and she says "when I have a baby, when I get married" but I'm concerned that this stage of her life will pass her by because we (her friendship group) are past the going out on the pull stage and she won't do online dating. But I want to talk to her so that in 20 years time there's not a moment where we are talking and she says she wishes someone had helped her. She had a bit of a meltdown on her birthday recently. I think somewhat related to this but she put it down to just "getting older".

I know you aren't the same person and only know what I've told you but can you give me any advice for approaching her about this?
TIA[/quote]
Not the person you asked but I wanted to answer anyway, feel free to ignore!

Initially I was going to say leave it, don’t say anything. She clearly knows she wants those things and she knows she isn’t in that position and that she’s not (to your knowledge anyway) doing much to try to and get them. So I think there’s really nothing a kindly intentioned friend could say to suddenly ‘wake her up’ to her situation: she knows. She’s not daft. She might be saying ‘when I do this’ as a way of joining in and not being left out, or maybe she believes it’ll drop into her lap. It might!

Having said all of that, I do think there is one appropriate way to respond when she says stuff like that, and that’s to enquire like you would with any friend when the topic comes up how it’s going. ‘When I get married...’ ‘yeah! How’s dating going lately?’ keep it simple. I don’t think that’s a nosey or inappropriate thing to ask a friend who’s talking about clearly wanting this in the future. As long as you’re sensitive.

But really, I meant this kindly, you asking her why she isn’t actively trying to find someone or pointing out that she isn’t gonna get married if she doesn’t try meet someone isn’t gonna be the thing that makes her go ‘ahhh yes! I KNEW there was something I forgot to do!’. Her own reasons for not pursuing this (to your knowledge) are her own and valid. And tbf lots of people do meet someone without looking.

So I’d personally say nothing, but if you absolutely must then maybe just ask casually how dating is going when the topic comes up. I don’t think that’s egregious. But the more I’m typing the more I’m realising that would be for you to feel like you’re helping her... and you won’t be. So after this wall of text, I say leave it.

applesandoranges221 · 20/02/2021 20:23

@ColdBrightClearMorning said everything I would have said!

foodiefil · 20/02/2021 20:45

Thanks @ColdBrightClearMorning I do appreciate your reply.
I understand what you're saying.
You're right there could be some dating going on I don't know about. I'd be extremely surprised if there was though. But I like to be proved wrong! We've known each other our entire lives. We are distantly related actually (our parents are cousins). Our families have holidayed together. Her parents were at my wedding etc. We're very very close and communicate daily. And know (nearly) everything there is to know about each other. If I asked how dating was going I'd be scared it would sound pokey / sarcastic.
I think as you suggest it might be best to leave her to her life and if she comes to me that's a different matter.

foodiefil · 20/02/2021 20:45

@applesandoranges221 understood 🙂

AureliainBlack · 20/02/2021 21:08

Obviously everyone is different but I appreciate my friends asking occasionally if I'm seeing anyone. I find it hard to just drop it casually into conversation. I don't like it when people ask too often though.

Things I don't find helpful

  • stories of 80 year olds getting married (are you suggesting I have to wait for another 50 years?)
  • people trying to find humour in my experiences of OLD- it cost me a lot of worry and energy to get out there, and I can't laugh at that
  • being set up, because I feel pressure to 'perform' socially and worry about being seen as 'that weird friend you set me up with'

It's really very hard because there's nothing you can say. Sometimes I wish someone would say 'Aurelia, cop yourself on and just get it over with, you enormous weirdo', but at other times that would break my heart.

It really is no wonder I'm single Grin

OP posts:
foodiefil · 20/02/2021 21:12

@AureliainBlack ❤️

You don't sound like a massive weirdo you sound lovely!

Sorry for gatecrashing your thread. I'm sure you have a foodie who spends a lot of time thinking about you and hoping you're happy.

It's good to know what NOT to do and say.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/02/2021 21:15

Everyone does things in their own time. You will be absolutely fine

ToastCosILoveIt · 20/02/2021 21:25

@junebirthdaygirl, lovely post, thank you.

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