to leave my TV on overnight so neighbour can hear?

[goodmorningcuppa]

Looking for some perspective!

NDN have been loud since the minute they moved in a few years ago: banging cupboards/doors, shouting late at night, etc etc. We are on good terms with them from our side - saying hello, taking in parcels, sending xmas cards, etc. - but they are not really bothered.

They are loud with no consideration to anyone else. Bang cupboards, shout late at night, kids always loud into the early hours. Their younger children are awake at all hours - later than 1am -screaming and shouting. Their teenage (14/15) son's bedroom is next to our master bedroom, which we have had to move out of because we are fed up of constant noise from him - shouting/singing/stomping at gone midnight. If you ever bang on the wall he bangs back.

We have knocked a couple of times and very politely asked them to keep the noise down at night because it wakes us. Nothing ever changes. We can still hear their noise at night from our bedroom further away and now use a white noise machine which I hate having to do.

They are not an awful family and my god am I glad they are not playing drum&bass into the early hours or dealing drugs etc -I know it could be so much worse - but It pisses me off that they get to live next door to a quiet and considerate family, and especially that their teenage son gets to sleep next to an empty and silent room!!

WIBU to leave a TV on overnight/late at night in that room occasionally or an early morning alarm just so that he hears something and realises that the walls are actually thin and I can hear him 24/7?

Hi all

Thanks so much for your input - really appreciate getting a bit of perspective from both sides and grateful to those who have mentioned they experience the same thing! We definitely won't be moving and won't put in a noise complaint to the council as I agree it isn't as bad as loud drum&bass etc, but i still don't think it's fair that they subject us to it. Their noise during the day is what it is - the walls are thin, it is to be expected and I don't complain about that. But I don't think it's fair that they are so loud at night (after 11pm) after we have highlighted how disruptive it is to us, which I think is absolutely fair on our part. We've always been considerate and kept noise to a minimum at night - but maybe that has been our downfall!

Their children (2 under ten and the teenager) are awake until 1am or later during the week and worse at weekends. There is no effort from the parents to keep the noise down or teach them to be quiet at night. They are running, jumping, screaming, whooping, crashing - you name it.

I don't believe this is normal living noise at this time of night! I was always taught to be quiet in the evenings and be considerate of our neighbours. God forbid if my neighbour ever banged on my wall at 1am because I had woken them up I would have been mortified!

They seem to be late risers, the kids obviously go to school (although not at the moment but counting down the days!!!) I assume they sleep in til late. The only time I hear them in the early mornings is on the odd Sunday morning doing (what I believe is) an online church service ceremony. This is always really loud with music and speaking/voice recordings and but again, I'm absolutely not bothered as she's entitled to enjoy her hobbies (not sure that''s the right word but you know what I mean!) etc on a Sunday morning. But I think I'm just as entitled to be able to sleep at 1am on a Wednesday without hearing her child crashing about and singing at the top of his voice in the room next to me when I have to get up for work the next day!

I hope you can understand what I'm saying - living next door to someone is absolutely give and take, but I feel like there has to be a line drawn when it becomes un-neighbourly and unfair.

I also appreciate that doing what I suggested won't make any difference but my god, would a bit of 6am hoovering or a loud alarm that I've 'slept through' make me feel better

Just to say, I could set a bomb off in my kids rooms in the morning and they wouldn’t even breathe differently, so I don’t know that the hoovering / alarm clock would work but by all means give it a try.

For a minute there I thought I was the noisy neighbour - until you mentioned asking them to quiet down. I’m the opposite- I WISH my Kids would knock it off despite pleading begging and removing goods from them. I sometimes wish my neighbours WOULD knock then I could get my kids to see I’m not lying when I say they are really anti social And selfish.

I guess they may see that as a parent's job?

You could try a loud alarm clock accompanied by top volume opera in the room next to the teenagers early in the mornings when you have to get up to go to work.

Honestly I would be up hoovering every morning from 6 or 7 onwards. I would drag the hoover up the stairs and bang it off every skirting board in the house, especially the adjoining walls. There is no way I would listen to that shit well into the small hours and then let them have a nice relaxing sleep in, they would be up at the crack of dawn with my hoover! Oh and I also like to listen to music when I hoover, hope they like the radio first thing as well!😁😁

@Princessbanana

Honestly I would be up hoovering every morning from 6 or 7 onwards. I would drag the hoover up the stairs and bang it off every skirting board in the house, especially the adjoining walls. There is no way I would listen to that shit well into the small hours and then let them have a nice relaxing sleep in, they would be up at the crack of dawn with my hoover! Oh and I also like to listen to music when I hoover, hope they like the radio first thing as well!😁😁

this made me absolutely cackle thank you i needed a laugh today!!

i can hear the -little shits- kids now screaming and running around, after i've had an evening of their teenager's bass music blaring through the dining room wall. absolutely putting my alarm on tomorrow morning.

oh no that was meant to be a strikethrough of 'little shits' as of course i would never refer to them as that

Do it. Unleash the noise. Selfish twats.

YANBU at all, but I wouldn’t do it as this will give them reason to “get worse” and you’ll have a problem then agreeing who started it. If you continue behaving like the perfect neighbour there is no grey area.

Speak to them again, make it clear you’ve had to move rooms and start keeping a diary

Because you are so quiet they probably don't realise how bad the sound travels and they probably think you are making a fuss about nothing. Absolutely start making noises in the morning, but not enough to be seen to be trying to upset them. Normal every day noises but as loud as you can It might make them realise how badly the sound does actually travel.

Do it, if they don’t hear noise coming from you they won’t realise.

We used to keep quiet in our house, not slam cupboards and I don’t think next door realised we could hear them/their kids running around. A nice family with a drum kit moved in after us!

No, try one more time to explain then report them to your council’s environmental health team.

Altho we had some noisy arsehole neighbours when we lived in a flat and after one particularly noisy party we rigged up DH’s Kenwood speakers on the top of a wardrobe the next morning at 7am laid them flat with the speaker facing up and put a 3 hr long bagpipe (DH plays the pipes) music CD on absolutely full blast whilst we went out. I was young and silly so wouldn’t advise now but it felt good 😂

If you’re being kept awake by antisocial noise (which shouting, screaming and stomping late at night is), then do report to the council if you want. You seem to think it’s not bad enough to warrant involving them, but I would disagree. Yes, dealing drugs and thumping music is worse, but this is certainly ‘bad enough’. Despite the depressingly high number of posts on here saying this is normal family noise.

Whether the council will actually do anything is a bit of a lottery, but mine would. As I know from unfortunate experience!

Of course, there’s the issue of registering a complaint which would need to be declared if you were moving to consider, but if you’re sure you aren’t going to be moving any time soon it’s something to explore.

@LadyMayoGoodway

No, try one more time to explain then report them to your council’s environmental health team.

Altho we had some noisy arsehole neighbours when we lived in a flat and after one particularly noisy party we rigged up DH’s Kenwood speakers on the top of a wardrobe the next morning at 7am laid them flat with the speaker facing up and put a 3 hr long bagpipe (DH plays the pipes) music CD on absolutely full blast whilst we went out. I was young and silly so wouldn’t advise now but it felt good 😂

I may have done similar.

With French opera.

Je ne regrette rien.

@Mamabear12

I would ring their doorbell at 4/6am 😀 I would do it several times until you hear someone coming to open it and leave their parcels at the door. When they complain to you, explain, oh you didn’t realise they were bothered by noise since they make so much damn noise at night when people should be sleeping.

Love this!^ How considerate of you not to leave the parcels when they are asleep. How can they complain, when you know they are awake because all the noise they made Woke You UP!!!

Morning!
Time to get that hoover out!

Everything @PrincessBanana said!

Stop being the nice neighbours by taking their packages in for starters.

Being a log of antisocial behaviour/noise.

Report to council.

Consider moving as last option.

Have you tried the council / environmental health? We did that when we lived next to a HMO who partied late every weekend. The council sent a letter which did have an impact on our favour.

I like all these suggestions but doubt any would actually wake a teen..