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How is the expression ‘an Indian’ not offensive?

894 replies

Yellownotblue · 11/02/2021 23:21

As in, an Indian take away or delivery meal.

I find it quite odd to hear one specific type of cuisine referred to like this. Would you say “ we’re going for a French tonight” or “he invited me to his place for an Italian”? Somehow it seems dismissive and disrespectful.

For full disclosure, I’m not Indian but my husband is of Asian ancestry and our children have dual heritage. I’m British (first generation migrant). I was born and brought up in North America and can’t remember the expression ‘an Indian’ ever being used as short for Indian food before I moved to Britain.

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Norwayreally · 11/02/2021 23:22

Definitely heard people say they’re going for a Chinese or an Italian, it’s normal where I’m from.

FabulousMeOhYes · 11/02/2021 23:23
Hmm
Howshouldibehave · 11/02/2021 23:24

We would often (back in the days when people could eat out) discuss whether we fancied going for an Italian, Chinese or Indian meal.

It never occurred to me that was disrespectful?

Polkadotties · 11/02/2021 23:24

Give over!

bonfireheart · 11/02/2021 23:26

As an Indian, I don't know what you're getting at.
We do say "getting a chinese" and "going for an italian", it refers to food not a person.

lurker101 · 11/02/2021 23:26

I don’t think it would be offensive, unless it was inaccurate I.e. Nepalese food referred to as an Indian takeaway would be inaccurate and offensive.

In our house we use phrases such as an Indian takeaway, A Chinese or Italian food but I’m happy to be educated if this is considered incorrect or offensive.

Stormwhale · 11/02/2021 23:27

Its short for Indian takeaway/meal Confused.

superram · 11/02/2021 23:27

A fish supper, an Italian (as a vowel), a burger,

Wingedharpy · 11/02/2021 23:27

Surely it's just an abbreviation of "Indian takeaway meal"?

Same as, a Chinese, an Italian, a chippy, a Mackie D's, a Wimpy etc etc etc

LastTrainEast · 11/02/2021 23:27

Are you serious?

Yellownotblue · 11/02/2021 23:27

I’m specifically referring to abbreviating it to ‘an Indian’. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say they were going for ‘an Italian’. Maybe I’m wrong or it’s a regional thing?

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Bunnybigears · 11/02/2021 23:27

Its just short hand for 'an Indian meal' I'm not sure how it is offensive? I say I'm going for a Nando's, for a Maccy D's, a Chinese etc.

campion · 11/02/2021 23:28

Lots of differences between N America and UK. This is one.
It's just shorthand for style of cuisine.

AdelaideK · 11/02/2021 23:28

We say a full English. Is that ok?

Fuhfeuucdr · 11/02/2021 23:29

Hardly dismissive if you are choosing to go for an Indian/ Chinese/ Thai/ Italian/ Greek/ Turkish etc etc meal? Surely it a celebration of that country’s food.

BloggersBlog · 11/02/2021 23:30

'We are having Thai tonight' - I really dont think anyone hearing me say that will think I am off to track down and eat an actual person from Thailand.

TorringtonDean · 11/02/2021 23:30

It’s Indian food and we like it! Surely that’s not racist? Sometimes people say a curry? Is that better?

Thedramasummer · 11/02/2021 23:30

I have never thought of it as being offensive just a description of a type of food to that region/ country.

I use Chinese, Italian, Vietnamese, Japanese, Mexican in the same way, so not just Indian.

Yellownotblue · 11/02/2021 23:30

@AdelaideK

We say a full English. Is that ok?
Well no, it’s terrible 😄. There are so many better breakfast options out there! Start by putting some fruit on the plate...
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WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 11/02/2021 23:30

You wot mate? Confused

FredaFlintstone · 11/02/2021 23:31

We're having an Indian
We're going for an Italian
We're ordering a Chinese
We're going to try a Thai

All things I've said and hear people around me say. It's so utterly basic i think it's odd you find it odd Confused

FelicityMingington · 11/02/2021 23:31

How is the expression ‘an Indian’ not offensive?

Literal answer to this - because the person hearing it is not offended.

Which is not just me being arsey. It emphasises what a useless concept "offensiveness" is. It doesn't have any objective meaning.

Wingedharpy · 11/02/2021 23:31

Offensive OP?

I give you " fanny pack".

Now, there's offensive!😉

MrsAvocet · 11/02/2021 23:31

I would definitely say I was going for "an Italian" or "a Chinese". It's a fairly normal turn of phrase where I live and definitely not restricted to Indian cuisine.

BrowncoatWaffles · 11/02/2021 23:31

Where are you from OP?