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To think it’s unreasonable not to have a kitchen at work.

78 replies

Jessiesmilkshake · 11/02/2021 10:02

Just that really. Where I work ( office/reception) there is no kitchen facilities eg fridge or kettle. I like my job but it’s a massive pain the arse that I can’t make a cup of tea in the morning or put food in a fridge or use microwave something warm.

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OP posts:
Aprilx · 11/02/2021 11:09

@Heatherjayne1972

I thought there was a law that states if you work over a certain number of hours then facilities must be provided for hot food/drinks ( kettle and microwave at least)
Only if the workplace is in a location where there is no hot food / drinks available in the vicinity.
user1493413286 · 11/02/2021 11:13

Sounds pretty rubbish; I’d be a bit miserable going all day without a cup of tea and I’m not a fan of sandwiches so like to eat stuff I can heat up

tttigress · 11/02/2021 11:13

Sounds like quite a small office, so I think you yabu, maybe bring a flask?

BarbaraofSeville · 11/02/2021 11:15

www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg293.pdf

HSE says there should be a means of heating food and water for hot drinks, ie a kettle and a microwave. I don't think this is law, rather a strong recommendation, with fresh drinking water as a legal minimum.

Bookwords · 11/02/2021 11:16

@Ifailed how is making a cup of tea cooking?

Taikoo · 11/02/2021 11:17

@Ifailed

You're paid to work, not cook.
Ebeneezer Scrooge got online, I see.
WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 11/02/2021 11:18

@Ifailed

You're paid to work, not cook.
Did you actually read the post? She wants to out her lunch in a fridge & make a cup of tea -not make a 3 course meal!
Bookwords · 11/02/2021 11:19

I don't see why you need a kitchen to have a drink or eat something? Do what most people do, eat at your desk, or go outside.

Christ @Ifailed, I hope you're not an employer or a manager! You sound awful!

alibongo5 · 11/02/2021 11:20

@Ifailed

OP can't just buy a kettle and plug it in, it will have to PAT tested.
You don't need to PAT test new stuff so it wouldn't be a requirement immediately.
WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 11/02/2021 11:22

Surely you'd use the bottled water in the kettle, not fill from bathroom taps 🤮

BarbaraofSeville · 11/02/2021 11:24

You don't need to PAT test new stuff so it wouldn't be a requirement immediately

Exactly, and in future, it would just get tested when they do the computers, printers etc.

Bookwords · 11/02/2021 11:24

@Jessiesmilkshake that sounds miserable, is there no kitchen sink etc? They could surely get a kitchen sink and drainer and small cupboard put in? If you got a cost for it, do you think they would consider?

KitKat1985 · 11/02/2021 11:27

I wouldn't necessarily expect microwave, especially if it's only a small workplace, but not to even have a small fridge to keep some milk and sandwiches in, or a kettle to make a drink is pretty poor. Not essential as arguably you can take in a flask of tea and keep your lunch in a coolbox, but still pretty stingy.

Could you ask for a mini fridge and a kettle if space is limited?

Ifailed · 11/02/2021 11:35

You don't need to PAT test new stuff so it wouldn't be a requirement immediately.

That's down to the employer to decide. The assumption is that new stuff is fit for purpose - try telling that to the owners of Hotpoint tumble dryers.

OP has still not explained why she wants a kitchen at work - so far people have mentioned access to a kettle and a fridge, hardly a kitchen.

MotherExtraordinaire · 11/02/2021 11:43

How do you think those who work outside manage?

Take a flask. Have cold blocks in your lunch. If you want other items then go out.

Many organisations don't have these facilities and baby have removed due to covid.

BidensWingWoman · 11/02/2021 11:48

@Ifailed

You don't need to PAT test new stuff so it wouldn't be a requirement immediately.

That's down to the employer to decide. The assumption is that new stuff is fit for purpose - try telling that to the owners of Hotpoint tumble dryers.

OP has still not explained why she wants a kitchen at work - so far people have mentioned access to a kettle and a fridge, hardly a kitchen.

She absolutely has explained. Right there in the first post.

I like my job but it’s a massive pain the arse that I can’t make a cup of tea in the morning or put food in a fridge or use microwave something warm

Hobbesmanc · 11/02/2021 11:54

Lots of small service offices or flexi spaces wont allow microwaves etc and as an employer you don't want it on reception anyway. There's usually a small communal space though but might be closed to Covid

Bookwords · 11/02/2021 13:09

OP has still not explained why she wants a kitchen at work - so far people have mentioned access to a kettle and a fridge, hardly a kitchen.

Did you read the OP @Ifailed, or was it too complicated?

Bookwords · 11/02/2021 13:19

And @Ifailed OP quoted "kitchen facilities" in the OP. I'm sure that she's not expecting Masterchef style equipment, with convection hobs, grills, double ovens with built in timers and a full set of roasting pans and saucepans.

Did someone piss on your chips today?

alibongo5 · 11/02/2021 13:44

@Ifailed

You don't need to PAT test new stuff so it wouldn't be a requirement immediately.

That's down to the employer to decide. The assumption is that new stuff is fit for purpose - try telling that to the owners of Hotpoint tumble dryers.

OP has still not explained why she wants a kitchen at work - so far people have mentioned access to a kettle and a fridge, hardly a kitchen.

But you said "OP can't just buy a kettle and plug it in, it will have to PAT tested." I was merely pointing out that legally you don't. You didn't say it was down to the employer, you implied - no actually you said - you HAVE to.
VeganVeal · 11/02/2021 13:45

@Bookwords

And *@Ifailed* OP quoted "kitchen facilities" in the OP. I'm sure that she's not expecting Masterchef style equipment, with convection hobs, grills, double ovens with built in timers and a full set of roasting pans and saucepans.

Did someone piss on your chips today?

Yes, and the chips were cold, no way of heating them, well only hot piss I suppose
AubergineDream · 11/02/2021 13:46

Can't you bring a flask?

AubergineDream · 11/02/2021 13:46

I agree it's annoying though!

RedcurrantPuff · 11/02/2021 13:47

@Ifailed

You're paid to work, not cook.
Biscuit
BikeRunSki · 11/02/2021 13:49

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 say

^What arrangements should I make for meal breaks?
There should be a suitable seating area for workers to use during breaks _ it needs to be clean and located where food will not get contaminated.
There should be washing facilities nearby, and a means of heating food or water for hot drinks. You must maintain good hygiene standards^

HSE summary document here

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