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To have expected the plumber to contribute?

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AmbitiousHalibut · 11/02/2021 09:04

I'm genuinely a bit puzzled here so would appreciate your views.

Last week our plumber came to service our boiler. We've just moved so it was the first service in this house, but he'd been coming to our old house (10 mins away) for years. We've called him out for emergencies in the past maybe a couple of times, but broadly we just see him annually for the service. He's always been very friendly and we chat a fair bit while he's working.

Our new house has a large appliance which is also connected to the gas, so after he'd checked the boiler, and had a quick look around the rest of the house to check the loft tank, bathroom tank etc, he told me he needed to turn off the large appliance to check the gas. I asked (casually) if he knew how to do it because I didn't, and he said yes. It also has instructions written on it, I discovered later.

Anyway, when he went to turn it back on, a valve broke so he couldn't. I called the guy who had serviced the appliance when we moved in a few months ago, and they talked for a few minutes about what had happened. The appliance guy said it was a fairly common problem and a bit of a design flaw, and that he'd come the next day to fix it.

It ended up costing over £200 as the part is crazily expensive. The plumber texted to ask how we'd got on and I said pretty much that. He replied saying something like "ouch, sorry". He then emailed me his invoice for the service, again apologising for adding to my invoices.

AIBU to have expected him to offer to contribute to the repair cost? I texted him to say I was surprised to receive his invoice and had expected at least a conversation about him contributing. I said I didn't expect him to cover the full cost, although I think some people in my position might. He replied very politely but basically saying that his service had highlighted a fault, and that was pretty much that.

AIBU here? I try and treat people fairly and it really bothers me to be at odds with anyone so it's really weighing on my shoulders.

OP posts:
ChequerBoard · 11/02/2021 10:33

Nope, you're being a twat. Calm the plumber and say sorry.

peachesandclean · 11/02/2021 10:38

I really hope you apologise

SoulofanAggron · 11/02/2021 10:39

Also in this day and age a lot of people are less well off than they would usually be- maybe even plumbers.

Which makes what you're asking even more unreasonable.

catinbootsx · 11/02/2021 10:40

Can you tell us what this top secret 'large appliance' is?

Or is it too outing? 🤣🤣🤣

notalwaysalondoner · 11/02/2021 10:41

It was a known design flaw that would have happened if anyone had turned if off/on again. What was he supposed to do, just not turn it off and not check the thing you had asked him to check? YABU. A tradesman should only be expected to contribute if it was negligence that resulted in the issue.

Chewingle · 11/02/2021 10:43

[quote AmbitiousHalibut]@Nith

Honestly, I think I'd feel awful and still offer to contribute! Perhaps I'm just a stupidly soft touch.[/quote]
Or more money than sense to offer to pay for something that you did not break through negligence and that has a design flaw anyway.

Twillow · 11/02/2021 10:45

It was a financial shock that you weren't expecting and I understand your reaction but no he shouldn't pay towards an item that became faulty. He didn't break it.
I had a similar issue with a plumber who had to try several different repairs to a boiler before one worked - I was also miffed that I had to pay for all of them, but it was just the way of it. He didn't do anything wrong. Only fair he was paid for his time and the parts that were used in trying to get to the bottom of the problem.

Pyewhacket · 11/02/2021 10:47

But does the plumber pull his weight at home ?. Grin

notdaddycool · 11/02/2021 10:51

#teamplumber

SchrodingersImmigrant · 11/02/2021 10:55

@notdaddycool

#teamplumber
😂
AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 11/02/2021 11:00

I had an aga in a previous house which required a new thermacouple (no idea if that is how the word is spelled!) every time it was serviced. The engineer explained that i was the most common fault found in them.

PhatPhanny · 11/02/2021 11:04

A gas service includes any gas appliances, if a valve breaks when a Gas Engineer is carrying out his work, that is a wear and tear issue.

Same as if a plumber came to work on your toilet, and when he turned off the stop tap it started leaking, its wear and tear and you would be charged more for the repair on it.

Sorry, YABVU.

BertramLacey · 11/02/2021 11:07

The appliance guy said it was a fairly common problem and a bit of a design flaw

That's your answer - design flaw rather than human error on the part of the plumber. (The human error being further back in the design process, rather than the operational bit). I had something similar - my washing machine needed to be moved to get access to the boiler for servicing. Boiler engineer turned up earlier than expected so I hadn't had a chance to move the w/machine myself and he helped me. In doing so, he broke the valve on the inlet tap.

I had to get a plumber out to fix the valve but it wasn't really the boiler engineer's fault. He was helping out, the w/ machine is in an awkward place and was in the way, and the valve broke whilst being operated normally. According to the plumber it happens a lot. So that one was on me.

Worried830410 · 11/02/2021 11:13

op its odd that you describe yourself as a soft touch implying that you are so kind yet you cheekily tried to stick him with a bill. I think you should apologize and move on.

Shedbuilder · 11/02/2021 11:17

None of this makes sense to me. Here in the UK plumbers don't service gas boilers and appliances, gas engineers do. And the engineer who came out to service your gas fridge (which is a very unusual thing in the UK) didn't service the boiler too while they were there? Something's not right.

Please make sure that anyone who does any work on any of your gas appliances Gas Safe registered. They have to be trained and insured. Plumbers don't have to have any accreditation at all. Anyone can call themselves a plumber.

GabsAlot · 11/02/2021 11:17

so when it was serviced wa sit not off then and back on with no problems

KitKat1985 · 11/02/2021 11:20

If he had broken it through neglect then yes, but it sounds like the part was faulty an just fell off when he tried to use it correctly, so I wouldn't expect him to pay for that no.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 11/02/2021 11:21

@Shedbuilder I thought about that too but assumed the guy is a plumber and certified gas engineer.

rachel612 · 11/02/2021 11:23

Hmm as you've been a loyal customer for so many years and he did break it I think I would have expected him to offer a contribution.

I think you can't win in aibu though, if the OP was the plumber saying she didn't want to pay everyone would be saying she broke it and should therefore pay for the damage.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 11/02/2021 11:23

@Shedbuilder

None of this makes sense to me. Here in the UK plumbers don't service gas boilers and appliances, gas engineers do. And the engineer who came out to service your gas fridge (which is a very unusual thing in the UK) didn't service the boiler too while they were there? Something's not right.

Please make sure that anyone who does any work on any of your gas appliances Gas Safe registered. They have to be trained and insured. Plumbers don't have to have any accreditation at all. Anyone can call themselves a plumber.

I expect the OP means a boiler engineer.

And what makes you think that it was a fridge being serviced? The OP says it was a boiler.

MaryIsA · 11/02/2021 11:23

@Godimabitch

He didn't break it through negligence, he broke it because it was waiting to break. Your appliance was faulty, not his problem. Cant believed you asked him to pay to fix it. You really should appologise.
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AryaStarkWolf · 11/02/2021 11:26

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

If it is a design fault, then the manufacturer should be at least contributing to the repair, if not paying in full.
Yeah That's what I was going to say as well, absolutely not the Plumbers fault if it's a design flaw but I would have thought the manufacturer of what ever appliance it is should be responsible
Chewingle · 11/02/2021 11:27

@Shedbuilder

Quite common for plumbers to be corgi registered so that they can work on boilers etc as well as run of the mill plumbing issues

Bookwords · 11/02/2021 11:30

YABU, if it's a known flaw, then speak to the manufacturer and get them to replace it FOC.

TheGonnagle · 11/02/2021 11:32

You just lost your gas engineer. There is no way my dh would go back and work for a customer who tried this on. You and your mum are very rude expecting a tradesman to forgo payment in exchange for a part which broke through wear and tear.
I hope you live in a city, tradesmen talk to each other. You might find it hard to get someone else who’s decent if you live rurally.