To be dubious about cranial osteopath

[Peppery123]

Been struggling with my now 16 week old. honestly never had this with first two. she has periods of uncontrollable crying, where nothing soothes her n I just dont know what to do so decided to try cranial osteopathy! (literally tried everything else so why not!)
cranial osteopath has said she feels tension on chest and jaw..she suspects a tongue tie. im so confused. as she was checked for a tongue tie just after I gave birth as my middle one had this so its the first thing I asked. and by a midwife. also if theres tension in her chest, shouldnt she be seen by a specialist? she was seen by GP last week who said she was fine, only suspected a bit of constipation. Im just so exhausted by this..I thought she had colic but she is now 4 months and its even worse! suspected silent reflux - medication - no improvement. changed formula- no improvement.
Its honestly like shes in pain n I have no idea what to do :(
Osteopath said probiotics but Im just so worried this is going to cause her more upset.

I went to see a cranial osteopath with my youngest. Fully expected it to be woo and all that, but it did work. Really helps with her colic.

It helped my baby. She cried continuously up until 6 months old whenever she was awake. She was born prematurely as I had a pregnancy illness. We had 6 CO sessions and it definitely helped her. She would sleep for hours after a session. At 6 months she suddenly changed and hardly ever cried after that.

I know nothing about cranial osteopathy but I do know about CMPA.
If your baby is in pain it could be the formula making her cry. DD1 used to scream all day every day. It was absolutely awful. If it is CMPA comfort milk won't make any difference and she will need prescription formula where the milk proteins are broken down which enables babies with CMPA to digest it.
CMPA has symptoms that appear very similar to reflux so often anti reflux medication and prescription formula is prescribed hand in hand.
It was a real battle to get the drs to listen to me at first but honestly once my daughter was no longer in pain she was a different baby.
Good luck. I hope you get it sorted.

I saw a cranial osteopath myself, I had 3 or 4 sessions.
I’m quite into herbalism, homeopathy etc but I can honestly say it was a complete and utter waste of money

@Peppery123

That poo description sounds like CMPA to me.

We used cranial osteopathy and it was fabulous, we didn't pay for it either but did have to journey into London for the sessions.

My DD like a previous poster was prescribed Neocate (an amino acid formula) as the hydrolised formulas didn't work but honestly it was a game changer.
Prescription formulas are extremely thin so if they are trying to rule out reflux you will often be prescribed carobel as a thickener with ranitidine. DD1 was later prescribed omeprazole instead of ranitidine.

@Daisychainsandglitter what were the symptoms? They keep saying a rash or excema which she doesnt have.

@MrsPatrickDempsey the green poop? Thats only been for the last 2 days since she started the c&g comfort

We saw a chiropractor for my DS because he wasn’t moving his head to one side and I was quite hopeful that it might help with his sleep. I’m not really sure it did but he did recommend a pro biotic and my health visitor essentially said it won’t hurt so go ahead if you want. It did seem to help in that DS was sick less and could manage slightly longer sleeping on his back

roarfeckingroarr

I disagree that Osteopathy is based on science. It is also an alternative medicine. Even the NHS website says Although osteopaths may use some conventional medical techniques, the use of osteopathy isn't always based on scientific evidence.

@Peppery123 both my DD's had CMPA although DD1 was much more severe due to the length of time it went on for as drs wouldn't take me seriously.
Main symptoms were rash, odd stringy poos as you describe, vile smelling wind, very bad colic bad vomiting. It was also difficult for them to drink much in one go. I would go to the GP and insist on a trial prescription formula. If you DD does have CMPA they will probably trial a hydrolysed formula first such as Aptamil Pepti, alimentum or Neutramigen. In some cases this may ease symptoms but not resolve them completely. If this happens then an amino acid formula such as Neocate will be prescribed.
Your DDs poos and colic certainly sound like this is worth exploring and would really recommend pushing for a trial of a prescription formula.
Good luck as I know how tough it is!

Sounds like a dairy allergy to me. My son had it. He’s on prescription for aptamil pepti from doctors. You could always try cutting out the dairy and see how it goes.

I took my DD at 9 weeks to a paediatric osteopathy centre in London. I didn’t even know what it was to be honest but I was recommended it by someone relating to breastfeeding issues. I have to say they cured our problems in about 3 sessions. As a charity you could access the service for free if you wanted to so I always knew I had the option of not paying if necessary ( I did pay because they were good). I’m not typically into alternative remedies but I’m also not opposed to them automatically. Clearly some medical professionals felt the same as these guys did volunteer work with premature babies in London hospitals as part of their paediatric training. I would look for a paediatric specialist though if I were in the same position again.

My DC didn’t have rash or eczema but she screamed non stop, pulling legs up, visibly uncomfortable, constipated. Diagnosed CMPA and prescribed neocate then nutramigen. She’s now a very happy 6yo with no allergies.

My little ones symptoms were constant painful screaming following a feed that you could not soothe, it's the most horrendous painful noise.

He could not be put flat or he would reflux up horrible acidic type mucus that was burning his throat.

He had watery/grainy bright yellow poo, sometimes 3 nappies after each feed.

He had a ring type rash around his bum

Made a wheezing sound after feeding that was picked up by health visitor.

He sneezed and coughed a lot (from the acid irritation)

The formula switch has been life changing, he sleeps from 9pm to 8am now where before my husband and I had to take shifts sitting with him to keep him upright whilst he screamed! However we did have to try 2 other formulas before this, each having a trial period of 2 - 4 weeks so it really is a waiting game which I know is awful at the time!

@Motivateinmotion

How old was your dc when she was diagnksed with cmpa

I had a grumpy one too.
Never found out why - saw numerous doctors a cranial osteopath, some retained reflex nut. Switched milks.
Two things made a slight difference - stopping breastfeeding and him learning to crawl.
He’s now 14 and can still be a bit grumpy at times, but is generally a normal, intelligent boy.

@Dugi3

Thanks how old was your ds when you finally got him diagnosed/formula change?
Its very odd as I wouldnt say shes screaming after feeds or even soon after feeds..its quite random. Iv kept notes so sometimes around 9/10 which is 2 hours after her last feed..today was 5pm before feed was due but she was still very irritable and squirmy after.
She only coughs when feeding which they kept saying can be reflux.
I will.take her to GP again and raise these points though thanks

@Peppery123 around 3 months old can’t remember exactly. She didn’t require any reflux medication just the prescription formula

I had a cryer.

CO made no difference at all. None.

She just didn’t like being alone.

14 years later she still doesn’t🤪

He was only 8 weeks old so I can only imagine how horrendous it must be at 16weeks, we were told that it is rare for it to be picked up so early as quite often it is put down to a colicky baby or just reflux. We were only sorted quickly because he cried so hard for 24 hours that I was convinced something was seriously wrong and took him to A&E who got us seen by a paediatrician that night as they could see just how much pain he was in.

Also I have just remembered that they suggested feeding smaller amounts more often and this helped massively! We were over feeding meaning his stomach was under pressure and forcing the acid back up his wind pipe, even reducing an ounce a bottle really helped! I totally understand how frustrating and utterly exhausting it is with a restless baby, just know that once you get the right combination your little ones true personality will come through. As a mum your instinct will know if something just isnt right so dont let them fob you off with the 'just colic' line

Saw a CO with both my babies as they were both instrumental deliveries. CO discovered that DD2 had a Sterners tumour in her neck. DD2 saw GP the next day and had an urgent referral to paediatrics within the week.