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MLM for the gullible

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SpringIsComingAlways · 08/02/2021 09:41

MLM everywhere on social media...living my own life selling tat @bossgirl Hmm

Apart from people at the very top is MLM just aimed at gullible people recruiting more gullible people?

YABU all type of people join MLM and make shedloads of money

YANBU it's just for gullible or vulnerable people

In case anyone doesn't know MLM is multi level marketing.... getting others to sell products you sell, like a pyramid with commission to those above you in the scheme...think YouNique, bodysuit, fake perfumes, smelly candles, make up that is ridiculously overpriced due to commission, etc etc..... they come and come and spread as much as covid

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FinalSongbird · 08/02/2021 15:15

@BSintolerant I saw a post with loads of Tropic being recommended. Apparently their products don't contain a single chemical 👀

BSintolerant · 08/02/2021 15:22

@FinalSongbird they’re a gullible lot. It makes you wonder if they’ve bought into the cosmetic and financial equivalent of The Emperor’s New Clothes.

AintPageantMaterial · 08/02/2021 15:23

I have a friend who has sunk quite a bit of money (when she is struggling finally due to COVID) into Crowd 1. She tried to recruit me but it became quite clear that she doesn’t really understand it either. It seems to sell memberships which entitle you to discounts (on things like travel). But she honestly doesn’t really know. When she started to question those in her upline, she was spontaneously contacted via FB by people she had never met asking her to sign them up. They are so obviously faked profiles designed to keep her hooked into an MLM when she doesn’t even know what she is selling.

menopause59 · 08/02/2021 15:26

Awful things hate them, especially the perfume one. They have started a story line on Coronation Street regarding a makeup one so
it might make people think before they sign up

m0therofdragons · 08/02/2021 15:26

I generally hate them but I do like the body shop lady I work with as she brings my order to me and I don’t pay postage so easier than ordering online. She usually gives me some freebies too to try. That’s my only exception and she’s never tried to recruit me.

ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat · 08/02/2021 15:31

I have a friend who has sunk quite a bit of money (when she is struggling finally due to COVID) into Crowd 1. She tried to recruit me but it became quite clear that she doesn’t really understand it either. It seems to sell memberships which entitle you to discounts (on things like travel). But she honestly doesn’t really know. When she started to question those in her upline, she was spontaneously contacted via FB by people she had never met asking her to sign them up. They are so obviously faked profiles designed to keep her hooked into an MLM when she doesn’t even know what she is selling.

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Exhausteddog · 08/02/2021 15:38

I am sick to death of seeing the vague job ads on Fb too....you can spot its an mlm from a mile off...i report them all as spam...not one of them will admit that there is an upfront cost to join and access this 'amazing opportunity'.

I find this annoying. in our local fb page they are very strict about "transparency" so you have to be upfront if you are recommending a plumber/builder/decorator who happens to be your brother, DH or best mate. (Fair enough).....but there are often these shitty vague job ads "that you can do from home/work round your kids/choose your own hours" etc, never explaining what the job is, what you'll be selling etc and it's all pm me for details....and that's allowed. (No transparency there) Every time I'm amazed how many people pm them.Confused

2 of my friends on fb did mlms a few years ago. Both had good full time jobs. One was some weight loss product (I dont exactly know what because I didnt want to "pm her to find out more" ) and one was some nail decorations I think called jamboree. Neither of them lasted very long.

MintyMabel · 08/02/2021 15:44

but felt very guilty when she messaged before Xmas trying to get me to buy stuff for people for Christmas. Not my/anyone I knows cup of tea

If she's doing very well from it, she wouldn't need to be hitting up anyone with a cold call at christmas.

YouokHun · 08/02/2021 15:49

@LarsErickssong

God I hate MLMs with a passion and could go on for hours but TikTok have recently banned anything to do with MLMs from the site so I'm really hoping other social media platforms follow suit.
I’ve tried to report MLM on TikTok and it never seems to violate their rules. I don’t know anyone else who has had a report of MLM activity upheld either. I suspect banning MLM pyramid schemes was just a bit of public relations, trying to position themselves as more responsible given their recent bad Press.
Callingallmajortoms · 08/02/2021 15:52

I honestly don't understand why people would think actively recruiting competition on what is probably quite a restricted marked especially right now would help their business grow. I think mlm is so sad and preditory especially towards women. I'm sick of seeing poor mum's succumb to this and everyone you write a warning a gun bit appears justifying it FFs if it was so good you wouldn't need to defend it would you.

BloodyDarrener · 08/02/2021 16:00

I remember when my mum sold Amway products. It must have been a good 30 years ago. She initially made a killing selling to our family and her friends but honestly, as the products were actually quite good, (and sold as concentrates) she could only sell them once. There were no repeat customers as everyone was all set for the next few years. The people who recruited her got crazy rich off that pyramid scheme though and retired abroad.
I'm glad pyramid schemes are illegal but MLMs are just the same schemes, tweaked just enough to get around it. Time for legislation to deal with them now.

If anyone on my friends list calls themselves an Ambassador and it's not because they're "spoiling us" with a Ferrero Rocher, then they're getting their arses hidden, unfollowed, unfriended or maybe blocked.

Callingallmajortoms · 08/02/2021 16:03

I used to work in a care home and the manager would often bring in her friends mlm magazine for staff members to order from. There was a definite pressure to buy. A few staff who left are now doing Scentsy crap

Happyhippy99 · 08/02/2021 16:11

Does anyone know if Best Self Academy is a MLM? It seems to have mushroomed from nowhere recently, but strangely the 2 people I know pushing it on FB have no qualifications apart from being pushy & loud?

ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat · 08/02/2021 16:15

Does anyone know about the murders of The Watts family by the husband/father... Shann’ann Watts was heavily involved with Thrive

TheMoth · 08/02/2021 16:17

I've got a few tropic/wax melt/ candles.
One tried that green gunk sell.

But the one that really bugs me is the magic coffee, complete with pictures showing how well it's worked in only x weeks, when you know how easy it is to look bigger or smaller just by breathing in/out and changing angle/ clothes.

KarensChoppyBob · 08/02/2021 16:18

I was really quite hurt when I came back to the UK from living abroad and an old 'friend' wanted to meet up ASAP, I was happy to see her again but all she wanted was to sell me her MLM shite/pyramid scheme bollocks. She gave me this massive basket of products to 'try'.

Gave them straight back. Haven't heard from from her since.

namechangerindanger · 08/02/2021 16:21

@LindyLou2020

Genuine question - (showing my ignorance 🤔). Do companies like Slimming World and WW operate as MLMs?
Ex SW consultant here, they don't operate exactly like MLMs but may as well. They only recruit their own members - for a much larger fee than MLMs, and then they pull you into the 'Cult'. They tell you that you are special - they 'chose' you. They tell you that if you run 'your business' exactly as they say then you will be wildly successful. If you aren't wildly successful then it is because you aren't following their 'plan' In reality, if you're half decent at it and have bought your franchise in an area that is very well populated you stand to do ok. They do ok whatever happens. You are self employed, but treated as an employee when it suits them. Awful.
namechangerindanger · 08/02/2021 16:22

@MintyMabel

Do companies like Slimming World and WW operate as MLMs?

I don't think so. They don't rely on consultants hiring other consultants to make money. They do actually sell a service which is the basis of the consultant's commission.

Part of a consultants role is to recruit new consultants.
MaelyssQ · 08/02/2021 16:23

One of my neighbours has started selling those fake perfumes. To be supportive (and to stop her bombarding me with messages and calling me hunni) I bought some. I asked for a dupe for Miss Dior and for 16.50 I got 50mls of something that smells okay but is nothing like Dior (I didn't really expect it to, to be fair) and wears off within half an hour, so I won't be buying again..I think she'll get bored eventually but she has really bought into all the hype of earning a 6 figure salary and driving a Mercedes one day.

Wroxie · 08/02/2021 16:26

25% of people making money is a massive exaggeration. It's closer to 1% making any profit whatsoever. And those who do make a profit are making a few pounds per month. No one who isn't at the very top (founders, maybe a few others) are actually making enough to pay rent.

sweetkitty · 08/02/2021 16:29

It’s perfume at work just now, one of my colleagues is selling it and she keeps inviting me to her VIP FB page. Perfume which costs £120 for a bargain price of £30 apparently Hmm

It’s lost on me as I only wear cheap vegan perfume

Apparently she only wanted to make £100 a month and she’s make thousands already double Hmm it’s knocked off perfume it’s not new.

ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat · 08/02/2021 16:32

I don’t wear perfume and my teenage dd turned their noses up at fake stuff🙊

BloodyDarrener · 08/02/2021 16:41

I questioned an FM (?) perfume salesperson on my newsfeed. She assured me it was definitely not a copy and explained very matter of factly that it was the actual, very same designer perfume made in the same factories and the Chanel, Michael Kors, Gaultier, Hugo Boss and Dior etc companies package it into cheaper, unmarked but similar style bottles to sell it cheaper in order to sell more.

I asked her if she had made that shit up herself or just fallen for it.

MaelyssQ · 08/02/2021 16:42

@ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat

Does anyone know about the murders of The Watts family by the husband/father... Shann’ann Watts was heavily involved with Thrive
That would explain why she video'd everything the family did! I wondered why the documentary makers had so much footage.

My heart still breaks for those little girls.

ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat · 08/02/2021 16:42

I questioned an FM (?) perfume salesperson on my newsfeed. She assured me it was definitely not a copy and explained very matter of factly that it was the actual, very same designer perfume made in the same factories and the Chanel, Michael Kors, Gaultier, Hugo Boss and Dior etc companies package it into cheaper, unmarked but similar style bottles to sell it cheaper in order to sell more.

I asked her if she had made that shit up herself or just fallen for it.

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