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To ask what YOU think a high salary is?

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minimummies · 06/02/2021 21:49

Going off the back of the salary thread and the savings threads. A lot of people are aghast at the wages and say that ppl are lying!

What do you think is a high wage for say a woman in their 30's?!
Would you say differently for a man?

I think anything over 100k is a high wage for either. 25-35k would be low imo and anything in the middle would be a good salary.

OP posts:
Dugee · 09/02/2021 08:09

[quote ToffeePennie]@dugee not all.
My husband earns £30k per year. I will earn around £7k this year. So that’s a total of £37k per year coming into our household.

Benefits have a “cap” of £20k per year, regardless of the amount we work. We are entitled to only child benefits (which doesn’t cover 2 days of childcare where we live) and I am constantly scared I will not be able to claim 30hrs entitlement next month because covid has crushed my earning potential. So actually, those who are “topped up” by benefits are often working minimum hours and bringing in more than me and my husband despite us working 40hour weeks.[/quote]
So you aren't living in poverty on 37k gross household income then are you?

Dugee · 09/02/2021 08:17

Households with an income less than 60 per cent of the UK average (£29,600 as of last year) are in poverty, according to the Government. That means families earning £17,760 or less are defined as living in relative poverty.

@ToffeePennie with a household income of £37k per year plus child benefits, why do you think you are living in poverty and should receive more benefits?

Imapotato · 09/02/2021 08:41

@minimummies

Under 25k to me would be extremely low and I would expect it to be a part time role if I'm honest.
Wow! It always amazes me on these threads just how sheltered and privileged some people are!

I work full time and earn 21k. It is a training role, but even newly qualified I will only earn just over 25k for the first couple of years. All nhs and teaching support staff will earn under 25k per year!

DP earns 36k per year. That’s a fairly good wage for our area.

Anything over about 60k per year would be very high.

Bouledeneige · 09/02/2021 19:31

I'd say over 100k but it really depends what sector you work in.

hopsalong · 09/02/2021 19:37

I'd say over £50k is decent, over £100k is a good salary (more than I earn!), and over about £250k is 'high'. Lots of jobs seem to top out a bit below that number.

FrostyChocolateMilkshake · 09/02/2021 20:06

I'd say over £50k is decent

Jesus, only decent!?

So much privilege in these sort of threads.

Nohomemadecandles · 09/02/2021 22:38

@FrostyChocolateMilkshake

I'd say over £50k is decent

Jesus, only decent!?

So much privilege in these sort of threads.

Brought up with really not very much, worked hard at school, worked my arse off in my job then my business. Several bumps along the way. Absolutely nothing handed to me.
Not privilege particularly. People are allowed to work hard and do well. Doesn’t mean we don't appreciate it nor that we don't know that people have less. Loads of people have much more than I do. As long as they pay tax fairly, I'm not angry with them.
CharlotteRose90 · 09/02/2021 22:49

@Updatemate

CharlotteRose90

The north is a big place. Where I am 30k is average.

I’m from Manchester if that helps haha but definitely round here 21 to 30k is average unless it’s a specialised job role.
KimchiLaLa · 09/02/2021 22:54

2-500k ish.

OverTheRubicon · 09/02/2021 23:47

@FrostyChocolateMilkshake

I'd say over £50k is decent

Jesus, only decent!?

So much privilege in these sort of threads.

Given that the median full time salary is over £30k, I think that for people to see £50k+ as a high earner is reasonable.

It cuts both ways - some people unable to see that anything under £100k is.high and others who consider anyone on more than £25k to be a a bit of a high roller. So much depends on where you live and who your friends are.

Dugee · 09/02/2021 23:52

@FrostyChocolateMilkshake

I'd say over £50k is decent

Jesus, only decent!?

So much privilege in these sort of threads.

Yes, see poster below with a household income of 37k plus child benefit and 30 hours a week if free childcare. Doesn't get enough benefits as she believes she is living in poverty.

On a salary if 37k a year, plus child benefit and 30 hours free child care, you are only in poverty if you have overstretched yourself by taking on a mortgage to live in an area you can't afford, bought a car you can't afford on finance, have racked up loans and credit cards trying to live a lifestyle you can't afford.

Coffeeandaride · 10/02/2021 00:16

I’d say up to £20k would be low (not part time lol)
20-30k a regular person
30k + they are doing well
45k + high earner

Ideasplease322 · 10/02/2021 07:28

In fairness I don’t think the poster with the £37k income said she was living in poverty?

Dugee · 10/02/2021 07:59

@Ideasplease322

I responded to a comment saying that no one with children is living on 17k a year (the definition of living in poverty) as they will be topped up by benefits (as long as they are working the minimum mandated hours per week).

That poster responded to my comment to say say that this is incorrect as she has a household income of 37k a year and only gets child benefit and free 30 hours childcare. A household income of 37k is a lot more than a household income of 17k and a household with an income of 37k doesn't need to be topped up by benefits (anymore than they already are with the child benefit and 30 free hours of childcare). It's ridiculous to try and compare a household income of 37k with a household income of 17k.

hopsalong · 10/02/2021 08:44

On "over 50k is decent". By that I mean 'pretty good, solid if not great', as the OP seemed to intend. I obviously don't mean the borderline of poverty.

No privilege in my case. Lots of hard work, though. Working-class family, lived in a council house.

I'm also really not a high earner. I'm an academic. Maybe some of the people on this thread are quite a bit younger than me, but salaries are a feminist issue. If you're well-educated and hard working and aren't working in a career in the arts (often not full-time anyway) or for charity, then you should be expecting, even demanding, as you get into your mid-30s and beyond to be earning 50k-ish in London, maybe a bit less outside.

Unless you are privileged and inherit money, how otherwise do you afford to buy or rent somewhere to live big enough for a family? (If you saw my house, you wouldn't think I was minted! It's very ordinary and quite shabby.)

Ideasplease322 · 10/02/2021 08:50

I agree this is a feminist issue. So many women have posted on here and their husbands earn more. I understand women can choose to go part time etc, but the pay gap is frustratingly stubborn.

It is okay to want to be a high earner. I appreciate there is a broad spectrum of earnings - but the thread asked about personal perceptions of what a high salary is.

I agree degree educated men and woman working full time and in their thirties should be aspiring to larger salaries, and will therefore have different benchmarks. Women in particular need to know what others are earning and push for higher salaries. Not just be grateful for what they have because others earn less.

wowier · 10/02/2021 09:09

If you're well-educated and hard working and aren't working in a career in the arts (often not full-time anyway) or for charity, then you should be expecting, even demanding, as you get into your mid-30s and beyond to be earning 50k-ish in London, maybe a bit less outside.
I think it's good to want that but I think realistically there are not enough jobs/industries that pay that. Wage stagnation over the last decade has had a huge impact.

Unless you are privileged and inherit money, how otherwise do you afford to buy or rent somewhere to live big enough for a family?

In London you can't really unless you buy with someone else & have the support of mum & dad.

thecatsthecats · 10/02/2021 09:17

I work for a non profit earning over 50k.

I've just reported to the board that my initiatives have saved the company 25k that we've been able to reinvest in service provision, which is in line with what I save them annually, rooting out the inefficiencies to deliver the same service more cheaply.

I'd say I'm a bloody bargain, because that's only a tenth of what I do.

Pleaseaddcaffine · 10/02/2021 09:43

I don't think you need to be on 50k plus to buy or have bank of mom n dad to do so. I earn middle amounts of money. Own my own home without a mortgage, in a cheaper area and with some compromises on location but with good school catchment. I've managed this through saving plans when younger and investments which I made again in early 20s. I havnt lived at home since I was 19 and my parnents havnt bailed me out.
It's not just about how much you earn (although it helps)

wowier · 10/02/2021 09:53

@Pleaseaddcaffine how old are you though?

wowier · 10/02/2021 09:53

plus i never said it was impossible.

Bluesheep8 · 10/02/2021 09:53

If you're well-educated and hard working and aren't working in a career in the arts (often not full-time anyway) or for charity, then you should be expecting, even demanding, as you get into your mid-30s and beyond to be earning 50k-ish in London, maybe a bit less outside.

I'm well educated and hard working. I don't work in the arts or for a charity. I don't earn anywhere near that.

BarbaraofSeville · 10/02/2021 10:00

@Bluesheep8

If you're well-educated and hard working and aren't working in a career in the arts (often not full-time anyway) or for charity, then you should be expecting, even demanding, as you get into your mid-30s and beyond to be earning 50k-ish in London, maybe a bit less outside.

I'm well educated and hard working. I don't work in the arts or for a charity. I don't earn anywhere near that.

Exactly. Just about all teachers and nurses, and probably a lot of other people are educated and hard working, and most of those won't earn anywhere near £50k.
Pleaseaddcaffine · 10/02/2021 10:01

I am 37

Comefromaway · 10/02/2021 10:10

I work for a successful construction firm. The very highest paid person on the company earns £48k.

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