To ask what YOU think a high salary is?

[minimummies]

Going off the back of the salary thread and the savings threads. A lot of people are aghast at the wages and say that ppl are lying!

What do you think is a high wage for say a woman in their 30's?!
Would you say differently for a man?

I think anything over 100k is a high wage for either. 25-35k would be low imo and anything in the middle would be a good salary.

The median annual earnings for full-time employees in the United Kingdom was approximately 31.46 thousand British pounds in 2020.

Abcdeisarealname

I am in the midlands and £100,000 for a single earner would be almost unheard of

All your full time GPs, most hospital consultants and dentists will be on over £100k

Comment from ABC.......
In my experience of GP friends’ salaries that is simply not true. A partner in a practice that is doing well might be on £100k but full time salaried GP’s are on more like £60k.....

As I mentioned upthread medicine earnings I believe to some extent depends on your specialty- take ophthalmology that very procedure focused and long waiting lists- there are plenty of waiting list initiatives = extra cataract lists, clinics, lasers, plus private practice and pay for any additional management duties comes into it.

@IfNot

Median full time salary for UK is £31,460?

Nope. The mean average HOUSEHOLD income is around 30k. Median per person is a lot less.

You are wrong🤣

You don’t seem to understand the difference between household income and salary

As worker has said and as I have said up thread, the statistic you are quoting is after tax, inclusive of benefits, is for a household and will include pensioner households and workless households.

The wage figures we are quoting are for single people who work full time and are before tax.

You can’t compare household Income with salary. They are different measures,

It seems the median salary and the median post tax household income are both just over 30k

Under 25k to me would be extremely low and I would expect it to be a part time role if I'm honest.

Ha! 😆. Work full time albeit term time and earn little over 9k. The full annual wage it's pro rated from is 16k . I'm far from alone, for me 25k would be a high wage

@IfNot

Median full time salary for UK is £31,460?

Nope. The mean average HOUSEHOLD income is around 30k. Median per person is a lot less.

It is. Median full time earnings are over £31k. Many people don't work or work less, but this thread was about full time earnings.

You don't have to believe us, though, believe ONS. www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/annualsurveyofhoursandearnings/2019

Lol. I work full time Mon-Fri and earn £18,600. I also don’t know many people my age or in in-qualifies roles that earn more than that.

I used to have a very good, professional career- but it didn’t pay. I studied for years and unless I moved to London there was no chance of me earning what I even earn now doing it.

A ‘high’ salary to me would be anything over 30k..

I can dream!

@Invisiblewoman1
Doctors aren’t on AFC scales - link below for nhs medical pay scales.

www.nhsemployers.org/pay-pensions-and-reward/medical-staff/pay-circulars

I don’t feel it is fair to say that some specialties/private doctors earn more - whilst true the vast vast majority of us NHS medics are on defined pay scales and earn somewhere £80-100k full time depending on years of being a consultant. The job is very well paid, but not most on over 100k.

Depends. My DH took in 95k or so last year, which sounds a lot but he's self employed and has lots of outgoings so while comfortable, we're far from rolling in it!

In a normal job without the outgoings, I'd think anything over 50k is a very good salary. A few of my friends/close family (in their 30s) would be on 50k or more but most probably fall between 35-45k and have a comfortable standard of living, nice houses etc.

Under 25k to me would be extremely low and I would expect it to be a part time role if I'm honest.

This expectation is so wanky. It's fine to have an idea of what a high/low salary is based on your own experience, but to have an actual expectation that someone on 25k must be working part time just sounds so snobby and naive. I think you know full well that a lot people earn less than that fulltime, and you're just pretending to have this expectation because you think it impresses other people and makes them think you must be a very high earner.

How sad.

Ok, I wasn't thinking it was just full-time, more just income per person. I looked at ONS and am very surprised tbh, because I know a Hell of a lot of people on a Hell of a lot less!

London full time wage median is about 37k

that's me stuffed then :)

Well about half of the population are on less

And since some people earn loads some must earn not so much

And people tend to mix and stay in groups with similar income, so if you have lower than average income chances are your friends do to

You tend not to get millionaires living in really cheap areas , children in run of the mill state schools going to Lowestoft for their summer holiday

Ime, in the East Midlands, 50k - 60k is for the high earners. Directors of council services and high-end service leaders get around that amount. Frontline workers get around 20k if they're lucky. I've never met anyone earning more than 60k, in over 40 years life. Also, there isn't much left ime between those two extremes: all the middle layers, and therefore opportunities for progression, have been wiped out.

[quote ChocolateHoneycomb]@Invisiblewoman1
Doctors aren’t on AFC scales - link below for nhs medical pay scales.

www.nhsemployers.org/pay-pensions-and-reward/medical-staff/pay-circulars

I don’t feel it is fair to say that some specialties/private doctors earn more - whilst true the vast vast majority of us NHS medics are on defined pay scales and earn somewhere £80-100k full time depending on years of being a consultant. The job is very well paid, but not most on over 100k.[/quote]
Hmm actually I felt that your post was quite misleading actually and that was unfair.
A lot of consultants do private work and have extra pay awards.
I was just clarifying that.

And 30% of children in the U.K. live in poverty.

“Households with an income less than 60 per cent of the UK average (£29,600 as of last year) are in poverty, according to the Government. That means families earning £17,760 or less are defined as living in relative poverty.”

www.bigissue.com/latest/child-poverty-in-the-uk-the-definitions-details-causes-and-consequences/

17760 pounds a year is absolutely not a poverty👀
Imho it's actually quite shameful to call "not well of, have basics and maybe bit extra" a poverty

Under 20k is on the low side but as pps have said, many jobs pay under this, 20-30 is decent, over 30 very good, over 50 is high and over 80 is rich in my book

@SchrodingersImmigrant

17760 pounds a year is absolutely not a poverty👀 Imho it's actually quite shameful to call "not well of, have basics and maybe bit extra" a poverty

Sub £18k income absolutely can equal poverty, or are you one of those who believes it's only poverty if you have absolutely nothing and cannot reliably feed yourself enough to remain alive?

Sub £18k income absolutely can equal poverty, or are you one of those who believes it's only poverty if you have absolutely nothing and cannot reliably feed yourself enough to remain alive?

Poverty by definition is when you cannot meet basic needs. It's literal definition of that. Whether it's one need or more doesn't matter then. So claiming that 17k is a poverty simply looks wrong.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Sub £18k income absolutely can equal poverty, or are you one of those who believes it's only poverty if you have absolutely nothing and cannot reliably feed yourself enough to remain alive?

Poverty by definition is when you cannot meet basic needs. It's literal definition of that. Whether it's one need or more doesn't matter then. So claiming that 17k is a poverty simply looks wrong.

Go away and read, you'll see there are lots of definitions, not just the one you prefer. Lots and lots of work has been done about it. It's not just a few people having a chat on a message board.

"Looks wrong"? What if on the £17k income you can't reliably meet basic needs?

Currently anything above 7.5k per year would be a massive bonus TBH,