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Would you retire At 50 if you came into money?

305 replies

Quarks69 · 01/02/2021 21:05

My Work colleague is not enjoying her job at the moment. Sadly her mum died and so she has come into an inheritance which has paid off her mortgage and leaves her and hubby with a clear million. They have no real work pension so this is it. He wants to retire early but he says it’s not enough. As someone who also dislikes her job, I think she should jump at it, life’s too short etc, but she’s not sure. Thought I’d see if you think this is enough to stop work with? Not that I’m jealous or anything 😊

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Quarks69 · 03/02/2021 00:25

@BubblyBarbara that’s an interesting point. I have no idea what my pension pot is. I wonder what the average is?

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shamalidacdak · 03/02/2021 00:31

Good God no! I love my career and what the hell would I do? There's only so much gardening or reading or traveling you can do before your brain rots. And he's right that's not enough for both of them

Scarby9 · 03/02/2021 00:35

My friend aged 59 intended to retire next Christmas when she would turn 60.

She is having a scan tomorrow having been fast tracked with possible ovarian cancer.

Do the things you want to do while you can. Don't wait.

famousforwrongreason · 03/02/2021 02:57

In a heartbeat. I'm nearly that age and have disabilities and a single mum, I'm fucking exhausted. If I didn't have to work my life would be 100% better

DuaneAgain · 03/02/2021 03:39

I'm also sceptical whether it's enough for two people. Would be horrid to retire for a decade then start jobseeking at 55yo!

Also don't understand people who would work to alleviate boredom. There's so many things you could do instead! Personally, I'd continue weight training but also start Brazilian jujitsu and thai boxing again, which I stopped when I no longer had time to train 4x a week, including three hours every Saturday. I'd also start playing the bass and programming electronic music again with the time to really master it now.

Funds allowing, I might also start a charitable venture or something. But I certainly wouldn't continue in a traditional office job. No way! I sometimes wonder whether the growing self reported happiness of women is down to the contemporary tendency to view a job as some kind of vehicle for life fulfilment (which rarely lives up to the hype). Most blokes just see it as a paycheck IME and any fulfilment is usually based on financial machismo/competitiveness rather than some sense of personal worth/fulfilment.

DuaneAgain · 03/02/2021 03:44

I think the ideal outcome is not having to sacrifice your life to fund your life. But of course it's tricky, because to retire early or not worry about money takes lots of sacrifice and hard work to accomplish, meaning that you are doing the exact opposite of your goal in order to accomplish it.

londonscalling · 03/02/2021 03:45

No .... 30

londonscalling · 03/02/2021 03:50

I'd buy a few cheap houses and let them out and live on the income. Your capital then increases too and you have something left to leave your kids!

ivykaty44 · 03/02/2021 05:51

londonscalling That’s not retiring though, that’s a business

2020BogOff · 03/02/2021 06:03

Yes absolutely. If invested correctly on a drawdown it is enough.

I have been travelling and having great holidays pre covid so I have not waited until retirement. It's more than enough to cover my bills. And I plan to use my time for lots of things that are cheap to do but require time I don't have when working.

You can't assume you will be in good health later in life so working and working until you are in your late 60s/70s so you can then have expensive holidays or hobbies is a gamble in itself. My DM ended up with cancer soon after retirement and died early 70s. She didn't get a retirement as was ill.

LynetteScavo · 03/02/2021 06:44

Absolutely! There's so much to do, why waste time doing a job you don't like?

user1471464702 · 03/02/2021 06:52

They do say you need a pension pot of around a million now as living longer etc - a friend of mine retired after their inheritance at 50 and got a bit bored with doing and buying anything they needed and during lockdown went back to wfh in a great job and loves it - it’s always a good idea to reassess what’s important and doing a job you hate is so demoralising that they should leave anyway whatever the money situation

Floisme · 03/02/2021 07:18

10 or 20 years ago I was totally of the 'why work if you don't have to?' viewpoint but, in my 60s, I've changed my mind.

From what I've seen, I no longer think human beings cope very well with a life that's 100% leisure.
I think some kind of structure and responsibility is good for both physical and mental well being.

Of course this doesn't have to mean paid work but I would say the people I know who have got the most out of retirement have figured out a way to replace that sense of purpose.

2020BogOff · 03/02/2021 08:01

By the time I am 50 I will have been working full time (apart from uni later as a mature student when I worked part time as well) for 34 years.

In fact I am hoping to retire early 50s and can't wait.

toconclude · 03/02/2021 08:06

@notanothertakeaway

1 million is £500,000 each

If they live another 30 years, to age 80, that's £16,600 each per year

Care home fees approx £1,200 to £2,000 per week. On average, people live approx 18 months after admission to care home

1 million sounds a lot, but if you want to be able to choose your own future care, I would continue working

The vast majority of older people never need residential care. Also you assume neither has any other pension provision which seems unlikely.
Zenithbear · 03/02/2021 10:22

I think most people could and would make it work.
There's always a few on here that couldn't possibly live on £10million.
Most people are worried about retiring and not having enough but if they bothered to budget and plan, it wouldn't look so scary.
Our pension plans are as follows:
basic living costs are about £9000 a year which we can cover with our not brilliant pensions, our savings will be for house maintenance, vehicles and the rental income used for nice extras like holidays, Christmas etc.

londonscalling · 03/02/2021 12:26

@ivykaty44

londonscalling That’s not retiring though, that’s a business

Not really. It's investing. Someone else can do all the work and collecting rents etc!

IM0GEN · 03/02/2021 12:32

You've got about £28k a year, with no rent or mortgage to pay. That income will, barring economic or meltdown, broadly keep pace with inflation and your asset will also appreciate .........Let's also say that you take out a 40k mortgage across the 4 houses to cover stamp duty, fees and set-up costs. That will cost you a couple of grand a year, but if you put your mind to it, you can pay it off sharpish. Stay in work for an extra year or two and blitz it that way, if you want

So you have £28k minus 2k for your mortgage. Remember you can’t charge your mortgage costs as an expense now . And your new kitchens and bathrooms might also have to come off your capital and not as revenue. Which is no use if you don’t plan to sell them .

So thats £26k, minus £4K to the letting agent ( which you forgot ), that’s almost exact the same figure of £21 K that I came up with.

And you have then doing all the repairs and maintenance themselves. How does that work when the tenant phones you at midnight to say there’s a burst pipe and you are on holiday? Or the neighbours complain of noise ?

Can you really get landlords insurance for a house worth £260k for £200pa? I pay more that for a small flat .

If you don’t pay a letting agent and manage the properties and do repairs / maintenance yourself - that’s a job, not retirement.

That’s a lot of work and hassle for £11k a year each income .

And surely if all you care about is income , you get no benefit from the asset appreciating. Yes the rents will go up over time but so will your costs.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 03/02/2021 12:33

I'm 54 and hell yes, I'd retire on that, but then I'm not at all materialistic. I'd spend it on holidays rather than "things". I'd probably do some voluntary work at an animal shelter to fill my time.

Movinghouseatlast · 03/02/2021 12:42

@IM0GEN you certainly don't need a letting agent in this scenario!

I have two buy to let houses and manage them myself from 250 miles away. If you are not working full time it is more than doable!

LunaHeather · 03/02/2021 12:44

Imogen "That’s a lot of work and hassle for £11k a year each income"

How are you defining a lot of work and hassle? If you are not a huge wage earner, spending a couple of hours a day on this would be more than the usual hourly rate.

LunaHeather · 03/02/2021 12:45

[quote Movinghouseatlast]@IM0GEN you certainly don't need a letting agent in this scenario!

I have two buy to let houses and manage them myself from 250 miles away. If you are not working full time it is more than doable![/quote]
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Do you mind if I ask, how much time per week does this take please?

stevalnamechanger · 03/02/2021 12:46

Invested appropriately it would be enough to retire on depending on their outgoing ...

Again I'm a huge advocate for FIRE ( financial independence retire early ) and using the calculators online most people can find a way to make this happen for them too!

Surely they could retire and then pick up part time work / work that would make them happier if they didn't want to go fully retired ?

Viviennemary · 03/02/2021 12:48

They need an income. They should do fewer hours in jobs they like.

MaryIsA · 03/02/2021 12:50

In laws retired at 50, they had a couple of lovely holidays, but frankly they retired too young and were bored. FIL went back to some director type work...

But I’d leave a job I hated and do something entirely different. Make cheese is my current plan.