Neighbour putting bins against our fence

[LouRidley]

Hi MN,

First time house owner here and first neighbourly feud! (Lighthearted)

We moved into this house that has a shared path where neighbours all put their bins against their fence along the path. Except for our neighbour it seems who likes to put his bins against our fence, along with some other items such as bikes, old ironing boards, etc. I discovered the issue when our dog was digging in our garden persistently at this one spot and when I looked on the other side of the fence, some bin bags were just on the floor against our fence.
So I moved the bins across the path against his fence but realised earlier he moved them back against ours!
I went to knock on his door and while he was not that unfriendly, he basically explained to me in a very patronising way (repeating “do you understand?”all along) that he owned the path. I checked our title deeds after that and he definitely doesn’t, it’s unregistered land.
I therefore wrote a courteous letter and posted it at his door, saying that he got me curious about the ownership of the path and that actually, no one owned it, so that I kindly asked him to put his bins against his own fence.
Bit of a suspense what’s going to happen but my hunch is that he is going to do nothing and that his bins and rubbish will keep leaning on our fence.
Any clever plan of action you can advise here?
We all love a bit of lockdown drama!
Thanks
YABU- leave his bins against your fence
YANBU- and in this case what can I do not going OTT

@Goodbye2020Hello2021

This??? Rubbish diagram attached...

Can nobody see my diagram upthread?

@cabingirl I love that!! and yes that’s exactly the setup and I find your diagram perfect and hilarious. That’s exactly it!!

@cabingirl

Is it like this OP?

For those who don't see a problem with this - would you be okay with someone crossing a pathway to stack all their old rubbish plus their bin against your backgarden fence instead of using their own like everyone else on the two streets of houses.

Did you make that specially?

😂

He's manspreading with his stuff. Sounds like an utter delight. I wish I was less surprised by how many women would accept someone behaving like this. I guess it's social conditioning for women to make space for men.

Yep!

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I totally understand OP, we have a v similar set up. Do you live NWest by any chance? I get pissed off our neighbours use 'their' bit of the alley to store broken crap and don't clear the huge brambles and bushes but I don't say anything coz THAT would BU.

I'd have to start a campaign, it's incredibly rude especially after your courteous request. Can you start using his bin for all your smelly rubbish? Bonus points for dog poo/ baby nappies?

@cabingirl

Yep!

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I admire your dedication

I’m prone to lightening photos for people 😃

OP has to live next to these neighbours for how ever many years, it's really not worth getting into a dispute about.

Some friends of mine have awful neighbours who have taken them to court repeatedly for all sorts of crap, and they had to stop keeping cats after a couple mysteriously died.

Pick your battles. A bin against the fence ain't it.

One of the people across the back lane in our last place had annoyed everyone by sticking a sofa outside his yard. He was very annoyed when the sofa got set fire to, apparently, but no one else was.

@category12

OP has to live next to these neighbours for how ever many years, it's really not worth getting into a dispute about.

Some friends of mine have awful neighbours who have taken them to court repeatedly for all sorts of crap, and they had to stop keeping cats after a couple mysteriously died.

Pick your battles. A bin against the fence ain't it.

But it's not just a bin - it's also a pile of old broken things - ironing board, rusty bike - it's a big pile of stuff PLUS the weekly bin all placed outside the OPs house instead of the house across the alleyway it belongs to.

Haha flip flop man’s house @cabingirl love it. I agree with you @NotFabulousDarling what puts a bee in my bonnet is this man explaining to my very pregnant self why I’m wrong (and some posters here telling me how petty I am). Yes it is menial as I readily accept, no it’s not OK to mansplain to my very pregnant self why I’m wrong to make a reasonable request. This has now become a feminist battle and I will update on developments

OK, it's just a bin and some junk.

It's a shame you don't live here in south London. All you would need to do then, would be to leave the gate unlocked one evening. The ironing board, bike and other stuff would have been taken by the next morning. :)

Put a pigeon feeding station on your back fence and wait until they poop all over his bin handle?

Thanks for the explanation, I get it now.

And yes, he's being a total dick. Something tells me he wouldn't do this if you were a big burly bloke.

Loving your attitude by the way OP

Totally dirty nappies dumped outside his fence when baby arrives.
Newborn= a lot of shitty nappies!

Annoying, especially if your dog is digging to get to his smelly rubbish. I would start putting bin bags full of dog excrement and other smelly stuff against his fence.

Definitely put his shit against your bin.

I couldn’t understand the set up AT ALL until a diagram was posted 😂
Now it all is absolutely as clear as day 😉

You’re not being petty, I’d be fuming if it was me! What gives hi, the right to put his rubbish against your fence instead of his own??? Dickish to say the least!

I wouldn’t keep putting it back to his as I think he’ll thrive in winding you up. I wouldn’t plant anything as I fear he’ll take delight in ruining them. The only thing I can think to do is bag some rubbish up in carrier bag size bags, then loop them over his fence panels. And keep doing it. Whatever he retaliates with, just do the same back to him again. He’ll hopefully either eventually get the message or be more willing to listen.

Congratulations on your pregnancy.
Bags full of wet dirty nappies hung over his fence = very grumpy flip flop man

I would, at the very least, spray "Brian from no.6 is a knobber" on the ironing board

My best neighbourly mansplain was when I asked Nigel from the posh houses opposite to stop his pink trousered mate from parking his brand new Range Rover Vogue in my humble Housing Association designated parking space. He cut right across me to tell me how wrong I was- sexism and classism in one . The resulting dressing down I gave him ensures that he hides from me to this day

This thread energised me, thank you all, now feeling like the Joan of Arc of bins

I always try and stay 'neighbourly' meaning I'd rather turn a blind eye than cause a ruckus that I will lose and in the long term cause me grief! Home is where I rest my weary head and rejuvenate myself. Could you not place some other fence near where he is placing his rubbish? Like a grass fence? If he is in his rights appealing to his kind-heartedness would have been a good start. If he is not kind-hearted at all, then I'd put the grass fencing up so that I would not see the eyesore? If rats become an issue then you'd have to ask him to go halves on the rat catcher fee. (Just a thought!).

I’m with you op.
It would give me the rage.
I would probably empty his bin along his fence every time he did it.
Obviously being careful to lock my own bin away first.