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Upset my dad (complicated wedding situation)

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Upsetmydad · 31/01/2021 13:30

Hi, I’m hoping to get married in June (optimistic I know) as we want to be married before we buy a house and our rental contract will be up in September and nearly have a deposit together now. Because of this we are just having a v small registry office wedding and a meal after if restaurants are open; we may have a larger party on our anniversary next year perhaps if we can afford.

I largely don’t speak to my dad anymore for around 4-5 years, we send birthday and Xmas cards and perhaps called/I dropped by 1-2 a year just largely to keep the peace as he would otherwise he’d be very unpleasant by text if he hadn’t heard from me that year. He was a good dad when I was young, and I know he loves me very much. We have quite similar academic interests and he always used to try and find places to visit and tv shows/movies and books on those interests that we could enjoy together which I do think of as my best memories with him. The issue is that throughout my life he had a series of addictions; before I was born he was a drinker but stopped but would go between smoking a lot, spending money on reckless purchases and binge eating (in fact made himself quite ill in hospital multiple times) and porn addictions. Obviously most of this I was less aware of as a child but as a teenager this seemed to worsen and obviously I could see what was happening more, it was always my mum who made sure we had enough to live on and she took second and third jobs to pay for this while he rarely worked which she resented as she couldn’t get him to accept help for any length of time. Their relationship was terrible especially in the end; which I do understand was both of their faults for arguing back with each other and both parties stopped nurturing the relationship and they were both really unhappy. My parents divorced when I was 17 due to my dad cheating on top of all the other issues. Things were said and done at the time by my dad which I felt were unfair including hiding funds and income so that my mother was ordered to give him more equity and running up debts in her name that she was unaware of. This changed my opinion of my dad and he has become a very bitter old man and quite a heavy drinker again.

I accidentally discovered a couple of months ago that he isn’t my bio dad when helping Mam out with an unrelated issue regarding a complaint about medical care; she had asked for medical records relating to some hospital trips and an operation to help the complaint and understand entirely what went wrong and the hospital just sent over her entire medical records which was overwhelming and not easy to understand ie. pages of all blood tests and pages of all drs appts etc and nothing was in date order so I was helping to sort through. My parents had conceived me with donor sperm privately so she thought this wouldn’t be on nhs records but there was a letter about it that she had handed to her gp (as you often get after hospital/private care so they know the situation) that she had forgotten about and I believe it was a genuine error that I found out.

Obviously this was a lot to take in as I’d never had any suspicion they’d even had fertility issues and they had told absolutely nobody at all on my dad’s insistence. I’m not upset they kept it from me and can understand why but obviously was a shock and have been thinking a lot about my dad and my childhood ever since; it’s probably made me think of him more fondly as he obviously knew he wasn’t raising a biological child and I can imagine that being quite hard for him and maybe worsened some of his behaviour.

The issue being that I wasn’t planning to invite him to my wedding at all as we just don’t have a good relationship and I know that he really doesn’t get on with anyone on either side of my family so I didn’t want drama. With it being now a v small wedding my partner is having his parents attend only and I was wanting my mum and maternal grandparents (both had the vaccine last week which is really great!) and had wanted my grandfather to walk me into the room. To be absolutely clear there will be no aisle or music or dramatic moment of giving away it’s just I need to get into the room somehow and I thought it would be nice as he is my mums stepdad and didn’t bring her up and had no children himself but has been around for me my whole life and I’m very close with my grandparents. My dad has walked a goddaughter and his sister down the aisle at big showy weddings and was not bothered; if anything he was reluctant so I didn’t think he’d be that upset about it especially as we aren’t close. But as I’d been thinking about him recently and felt much more grateful for the lovely things he did when I was little and people kept encouraging me to invite him I asked my dad if he would also attend but advised that I had already asked my grandad to walk me in but it would be very low key. I thought this would be ok and made sure to emphasise how lovely it would be for him to be there and that it is nice that he is recorded on my marriage cert and suggested we could go for coffee and cake the next week just me and dad to celebrate as well as everyone being at the meal in case it was awkward as he doesn’t speak with my mam. He became very angry and was shouting into the phone at me and then was sobbing and I was very confused and upset myself as obviously it wasn’t nice that I was being shouted at and had caused my dad to be sobbing and kept trying to reinforce that it wasn’t going to be a proper giving away and that I had not intended for him to be upset as he’d always expressed it being a bit pointless and hadn’t been fussed about the previous ones he’d done so I hadn’t thought he considered it a big deal. I could kinda tell he was trying to get me to say that he could just do it instead but I didn’t wanna change my decision while I was really upset and confused so was very non commital when he asked if I was still doing it that way even though he was upset by it. He said he would call me back next week when he’d decided whether or not to come and hung up.

He doesn’t yet know that I know about the donor conception and I had been hoping that I could have this conversation with him in the months after my wedding once I understood my feelings about it better as I feel it’s important to let him know that I still consider him my dad as he is the one who brought me up and that I’m grateful that he brought me up and agreed to have a baby that way and everything. I am still unpacking some of my own feelings around the donor I think which also complicates the issue.

I just feel that I’ve majorly fucked up everything and am not sure what to do, I’m very anxious about his call next week and wish I had not mentioned the wedding to him as he will now be either bitter about it and not come or he will come but I will be on edge about him making a scene or unpleasant comments or turning up drunk (which I did gently say would make me v uncomfortable at the beginning of the call which he took really well and was understanding about) but now he is angry he could easily ignore and turn up drunk. I just feel however it turns out that there is a shadow over the wedding and it’s all my fault. My partner is fuming because obviously I was a state when trying to explain what had happened on the call but has now calmed down and is happy to support me however I want and would be v civil to him if I still want him there. My mum was also supportive when I told her as she asked how it had gone (I’d told her I was inviting him so she wasn’t blindsided) and I got upset and had to tell her but she also was very much of the opinion that I should have expected an unreasonable reaction.

Thank you for reading if your still here, sorry it’s so long it’s just I find it hard to explain everything. What should I do? I can’t really uninvite him as that’s very rude but now I feel that I should have not let myself be persuaded by other people and my memories of happier times but it’s too late to undo it all

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/01/2021 13:42

Wait a moment.

You are getting married, congratulations 🎉, and he is making it ALL about him!

Do what you want, what you have planned. He can deal with it as he chooses.

DHs family is all fractured and unfriendly. We told them to come only if they thought they could stay nice and pleasant all day. One uncle and his kids managed not to get into a fight until after we left, though I did slap SILs partner when she threatened me with a glass. God only knows why I have any happy memories of the day!

Yohoheaveho · 31/01/2021 13:46

Congratulations on your forthcoming nuptials🥳
You have not fucked up, HE has....all his life!
He's not worth all this stress and headspace, he's not worth your time

Teardrop2021 · 31/01/2021 13:47

I think your being mean sorry

Lemons1571 · 31/01/2021 13:51

He sounds like a complete wanker and the issues are all his. I’d just leave it now. Wouldn’t contact him. You’ve done enough and quite frankly he needs to grow up.

And I’d arrange for some informal security at your wedding as this bloke sounds like it’s all about him, and he wouldn’t hesitate to ruin your day if he’s having a strop.

You can’t cajole and manipulate someone into not being an addicted arsehole.

PeanutButtaCups · 31/01/2021 13:53

I think it’s completely fair that your grandad is walking you in, you’re obviously very close to him and on top of that you haven’t spoken to your dad for quite a while.

Lizadork · 31/01/2021 13:54

There are donor conceived groups on facebook, and if you ever wanted to dig into your genealogy there is DNA testing with Ancestry, 23andMe, My heritage, Gedmatch. It matches relatives that test.

I am not sure what to say about the wedding issues which is why i have not commented on them.

Yohoheaveho · 31/01/2021 13:54

@Teardrop2021

I think your being mean sorry
Oops! Your dad has found The thread👀
CorianderBee · 31/01/2021 13:55

Idk sounds like he was a shit dad anyway tbh.

Just let him cope as he wants and do your original plan. You're not responsible for his happiness.

Ginevere · 31/01/2021 13:55

He sounds like a total arsehole, OP. The fact that he isn’t your bio dad is a misdirection. He’s a nasty addict who doesn’t deserve your time.

I will also add that you seem to make excuses for him: you note that he was unpleasant, wasted family money so your mum had to get multiple jobs, cheated, and yet you put the blame for the breakup on both parents for ‘not nurturing the relationship.’ After all that, she’s not even being asked to walk you down the aisle? I feel for your poor mum tbh.

MatildaTheCat · 31/01/2021 13:56

I think the best approach now might be to message him saying you are sorry that he’s so upset and you feel that given how he feels it might be best if he doesn’t attend and celebrates with you over a meal soon afterwards. He doesn’t sound capable of behaving himself and spoiling the day.

You deserve a relaxed and drama free day, with home there you will worry and quite possibly get a lot of drama.

Upsetmydad · 31/01/2021 13:56

Thank you for the responses, I guess I’m just very much a people pleaser so was hoping to be able to fix it up neatly. I do feel a little better that people think it’s him overreacting not just me being a total bitch to him x

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CorianderBee · 31/01/2021 13:58

@Ginevere agree with this. Found it very odd you partly blamed your mum for the divorce OP. A porn addicted alcoholic who ran up debts so your mum had to get multiple jobs while supporting her kids? How is she even 1% to blame?

Also odd you didn't ask her to walk you after all of that.

Teardrop2021 · 31/01/2021 13:58

Yohoheaveho sorry for my opinion but I'm very much entitled to it. My own DF has terminal cancer so I just think life is abit too short.

CorianderBee · 31/01/2021 13:59

@Teardrop2021 presumably though you are close to your father and he wasn't an Ara hole like OPs dad.

Gufo · 31/01/2021 14:01

You're not being a bitch. Ignore his tantrumming (as much as you can!)

Upsetmydad · 31/01/2021 14:04

@Ginevere hope I’ve linked you correctly not sure if that’s how to do it. I’m sorry it’s come across that way about my mum, honestly she’s the world to me, I only meant it obviously want going anywhere because neither of them were trying, I don’t blame her for that an honestly wouldn’t have expected her to try but rather meant it in a ‘they’d both just had enough’ type of way. My mum is ecstatic that my grandad is walking me and would have not wanted to do it herself as she is very traditional and thinks it should be a man, her own elderly grandfather walked her. She is signing the register for me and we are doing all of the planning and choosing outfits together and everything, we are kind of each other’s best friends and have a super relationship x

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FFSAllTheGoodOnesArereadyTaken · 31/01/2021 14:04

You can always have two people walking you in, one on each side. Or nobody. One things that stands out though is you worrying about his feelings and trying to figure out how to make him happy, and I don't think he is doing the same at all, even though its your wedding. Also a few nice childhood memories don't really make up for the years and years of shit he put you through, overall he sounds a bit of a rubbish parent. So I'd try and concentrate on your own day and your new family

AOwlAOwlAOwl · 31/01/2021 14:04

You tried to be nice and he's created a bunch of drama so everything is about him. I would go with a PP suggestion to say to him that as he's so upset about it perhaps it's best he doesn't come at all. I bet your mum will be relieved and I bet you will be as well, you won't have the worry that he will create a scene and just have the people there you know will support you. I'm sorry your dad is so shit.

SmudgeButt · 31/01/2021 14:04

Frankly I think you'd be better off by not having him at the wedding. (btw - congrats!)

you do sound though like you've got a lot of complicated thoughts about him. I'd suggest writing him a letter - explain what you know and why you think he did a good job (when he did do a good job). You don't need to send the letter, at least hang on to it for a bit so you can rethink, edit. Tell him you love him, if you do, and wish him well, if you want to.

Yohoheaveho · 31/01/2021 14:05

@Teardrop2021

Yohoheaveho sorry for my opinion but I'm very much entitled to it. My own DF has terminal cancer so I just think life is abit too short.
I'm so sorry to hear about your dad🙏 you're very lucky to have a dad that you want to be close to, who isn't a complete useless dysfunctional idiot If you had a father like that (or the ability to imagine someone else's situation)I'm sure you'd understand why the Opie wants nothing to do with hers
picklemewalnuts · 31/01/2021 14:07

Have you told him a date? If so, change it.

Don't invite him. Tell him you are sorry he's upset, but that you want a very relaxed, no stress wedding.

If he had changed at all from the manipulative, devious, unreliable man he was in your teens, then he would accepted your choices.

Don't pander to him at all.

Now for the harsh bit- he isn't actually related to you, and won't be related to your children. His behaviour on multiple occasions disqualified him from any right of inclusion in your life. You are not tied to this man in the same way as if he was your bio father.

Reinventinganna · 31/01/2021 14:07

I don’t think the fact that he isn’t your biological father has anything to do with it. Maybe it explains his problems but maybe not, he might still have been the same person regardless.

You need to be clear what your expectations of him for the day are and stick to it. Tell him exactly what you expect from him and what won’t be tolerated.

I had similar at my first wedding ceremony and the family member chose not to come which was really upsetting at the time but looking back I think it was for the best.

FWIW, when I got married a second time we didn’t tell anyone! So much more relaxed! It was about my Dh and me, no one else.

HollowTalk · 31/01/2021 14:11

I wouldn't have wanted him there but have to say I really hate what you implied, that he wasn't your 'real' dad.

Would he have found out you were married if you hadn't told him?

Changechangychange · 31/01/2021 14:11

If you ask him to walk you down the aisle, there is a very high chance he will turn up drunk, or just not turn up, or god knows what. You’d be insane to ask him, even if you were close, and he is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks he gets to walk you down the aisle after his behaviour over the past however many years since you were a child.

Ileflottante · 31/01/2021 14:14

@Teardrop2021

I think your being mean sorry
You’re wrong.