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To have just discovered Led Zeppelin and

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Jimmypageswife · 27/01/2021 10:21

Be absolutely stunned by Jimmy Page??? 😍 Don't even get me started on Robert Plant. Ovaries explode

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amusedtodeath1 · 31/01/2021 16:38

The underage girls thing is appalling, but it was soo accepted back then, by all of society. I was a teen in the 80s so many men were inappropriate that it was completely normalised. Thankfully now we recognise it for the abuse it is, but these men also grew up in a society where you could "date" a 13 YO and not be considered a monster. I'm so glad it's different now, my 16 YO thinks it's disgusting that her dad (21) started dating me at 16.

username44416 · 31/01/2021 16:48

@amusedtodeath1

The underage girls thing is appalling, but it was soo accepted back then, by all of society. I was a teen in the 80s so many men were inappropriate that it was completely normalised. Thankfully now we recognise it for the abuse it is, but these men also grew up in a society where you could "date" a 13 YO and not be considered a monster. I'm so glad it's different now, my 16 YO thinks it's disgusting that her dad (21) started dating me at 16.
It was common for 16 year olds to be working as topless models in national newspapers and that continued up until very recently. Sam Fox was 16 years old and her manager was her dad. There were also 14/15 year old lingerie models who couldn't legally go topless but still did glamour modelling.

The Sun ran a campaign in the 80s, where they teased the readers with a countdown to a girl's 16th birthday, when they would eventually see her breasts.

ListeningQuietly · 31/01/2021 16:50

The Sun ran a campaign in the 80s, where they teased the readers with a countdown to a girl's 16th birthday, when they would eventually see her breasts.
Charlotte Church

VinylDetective · 31/01/2021 16:54

I’d forgotten about that count down. Just awful.

username44416 · 31/01/2021 16:54

Kate Moss was 15 years old when she went topless for The Face.

elp30 · 31/01/2021 16:54

@wannabebetter

I can't believe we've come this far with no mention of the sex-on-legs perfection of Phil Lynott!!!

YES!!!

Oh man, Phil Lynott was so amazingly HOT!

DGRossetti · 31/01/2021 16:57

Minipops anyone ?

ScienceSensibility · 31/01/2021 16:59

Favourite Zeppelin tracks?

My top three are

Since I’ve Been Loving You ( the guitar on this!)
Kashmir
When The Levee Breaks (phenomenal drumming from JB)

So hard to limit myself to three.

DGRossetti · 31/01/2021 17:08

So hard to limit myself to three

Well, yes.

I have a soft spot for "Achilles Last Stand". But "In Through The Out Door" (I have an original LP that you sprayed with water to bring the colours out on the inner sleeve Smile) shows that they were just as innovative at the end as the beginning.

But really, it's the live performances that still stand out. No two ever the same, and a stunning breadth of influences reimagined every night.

ballroompink · 31/01/2021 17:16

@paisley256

The live version of the bluesy "Since I've been Loving You" by Led Zep when they played at Madison Square Gardens is incredible. Jimmy Page's guitar at the beginning and the solo is spellbinding, the crowd are completely entranced it's just beautiful. Also Robert Plant's wife is in the audience and when he's singing the camera shows her looking at him captivated like everyone else. I must have played this to every single person I know it's amazing.
Yes yes yes, that MSG album is probably the thing I listen to the most. Epic!
KathleenTurnerOverdrive · 31/01/2021 17:42

The underage girls thing is appalling, but it was soo accepted back then, by all of society.

Holding a 13 year old captive was considered beyond the pale at the 70s and Page went to considerable lengths to keep this a secret in fear he'd be changed with statutory rape. It is a different order to Sam Fox in page 3 etc. It was and is child abuse.

Pedallleur · 31/01/2021 18:02

@username44416

This was all happening in plain sight. It was very common for rock stars and any famous men, to have young girls queuing up to meet them. Teenagers were seen as more grown up then. It was common to leave school at fifteen or sixteen and to be married with a kid at 19. I know this, because I was brought up in the 70s.

Jimmy Page wasn't grooming kids outside school gates, teenage girls were throwing themselves at him. My BIL is in a band and one of his bandmates is in a wheelchair and pulls young women every night because he's in a band.

There were 'groupies' who were groups of girls and young women, who would follow bands around and stand outside their hotels waiting to be asked in. I was going to gigs at the age of 12 and 13 years old with friends and drinking in pubs. That would be unheard of now.

That was the kind of atmosphere in the BBC at the time that Saville and other famous (huge household names) DJs were having sex with groupies. People turned a blind eye because it was so common. I don't know about Jimmy Page keeping 13 years olds locked up; sounds sick but it puts that era into context.

Just listen to All Night Long by Rainbow. Tells you what happened/what was expected. But no one made the girls line up backstage. Gene Simmons of Kiss has a collection of photo albums with pictures from girls in various poses and their details. They sent them to him when the band was on tour to get an invite. Def Leppard had the infamous Dik Likker pass with that title in the band's logo type. All still goes on but camera phones etc have changed the dynamic. Someone I know met David Coverdale who bemoaned the Aids crisis and said those were 'dark days for a cocksman'
KathleenTurnerOverdrive · 31/01/2021 18:05

But no one made the girls line up backstage.

Because they were children they couldn't give consent. Jesus H!

Mudmudingloriousmud · 31/01/2021 18:07

Dave gilmore for me, he looks good now too.

frenchlavenderfeild · 31/01/2021 18:08

@KathleenTurnerOverdrive

The underage girls thing is appalling, but it was soo accepted back then, by all of society.

Holding a 13 year old captive was considered beyond the pale at the 70s and Page went to considerable lengths to keep this a secret in fear he'd be changed with statutory rape. It is a different order to Sam Fox in page 3 etc. It was and is child abuse.

Yep, this is all true, he knew he was being a scum bag but didn't care as long as he didn't get caught he also cast the girl aside heartlessly when he got fed up with her. Also him and Robert Plant used to mock the older girls for being too old and gross so anyone over about 19 as being a desperate old hag.
PopperUppleton · 31/01/2021 18:40

Oh what a fab thread. Just been driving (I work away from home and have to drive there on a Sunday) and listened to quite a bit of Led Zep in the car today for the first time in quite a while. Love Jethro Tull too, excellent driving music. And I was one of the few who was totally in love with Mike Oldfield when Tubular Bells came out. I was 10 and he was 17 and I wondered if he'd wait for me.

And Dave Gilmour is one of the most beautiful men ever. Achingly beautiful.

Led Zep III is my cleaning music 😁

DGRossetti · 31/01/2021 19:00

Jethro Tull too

Saw them in '83 - before I saw "The Firm" Grin. And '87. And 89. And 93?

I have an "Under Wraps" programme signed by all of Tull - including Ian Anderson (who received fans while sitting in a Range Rover ...)

woodhill · 31/01/2021 19:20

@HagenDaz

How could a man as good looking as that produce the shite that was Moonlight Shadow (Shadow)?
Love Moonlight shadow
Scout2016 · 31/01/2021 19:42

Slightly off topic but I used to go to rock clubs as a teenager. Lots of older men with teenage girlfriends. Schoolgirls. Over time we sort of outgrew them, like they had arrested development and we just noticed all of a sudden. Plus it was a small world so exhausted fairly quickly dating wise. We didn't realise how creepy it was. Then me and my peers moved away (uni etc) or just moved onto big dance clubs the we couldn't have got into underage...I imagine a new wave of teen girls started going to the rock venues in our place. The few times I went back to those rock clubs and pubs as an adult I was really conscious of the young girls/ older men aspect...some of them the same men I'm sure. Not saying all rock clubs are like this, or that it's only rock clubs where this happened. But it was definitely very noticeable in my hometown.
Anyway...snakebite and black anyone?

LadyfromtheBelleEpoque · 31/01/2021 19:56

@Scout2016

Black velvet for me, please Scout. When you're ready.

GordonsAlive85 · 31/01/2021 19:56

How about early Eric Clapton? Blush

To have just discovered Led Zeppelin and
poppyzbrite4 · 31/01/2021 20:17

I used to drink Pink Poisons. Snake bite and black with vodka. Jesus Christ.

PopperUppleton · 31/01/2021 20:19

@DGRossetti

Jethro Tull too

Saw them in '83 - before I saw "The Firm" Grin. And '87. And 89. And 93?

I have an "Under Wraps" programme signed by all of Tull - including Ian Anderson (who received fans while sitting in a Range Rover ...)

I used to go and see Tull every time they played the Edinburgh Playhouse around those times 😁
Scout2016 · 31/01/2021 20:50

I'll get the round in in a sec. Just having a marlbough red once I've managed to fish my lighter out of my boots...it might look like this outfit has more fixtures and fittings than B&Q but a pocket isn't one of them.

Scout2016 · 31/01/2021 20:52

Eric Clapton leaves me cold. I know he's a textbook genius but there's something so sterile about his music for me.

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