What is Black at heart or White at heart? Can someone be Asian at heart too? Scottish at heart as well?

[OrIsTheWorldNuts]

If so, what does this mean? What makes you 'something'/a race or a nationality/an ethnicity at heart?

Oh goodness me, I don’t know. Is this a thing?

Yes its like being trans you are what you feel you are.
I really do think identity politics has gone to far when a white straight guy can claim to be a black lesbian because that's how they feel. But that is where we are now

Well, that’s a load of tosh, isn’t it? Your genetics determine your physical make-up. Your mind is culturally and socially constructed. Your heart has nothing to do with it.

If so, what does this mean?

What's the context, OP?

Apparently it is a thing.

Had to edit my title from "What the hell is...." to a more palatable "What is..." because I really want to know and don't wish to start the thread by showing signs of irritation.

I do get when people say that in a not-serious way but to seriously say something like you're not black/white at heart or you must be white/black at heart, etc just makes me think I must be missing something.

So I really want to know if I can learn something new here.

@LonginesPrime

If so, what does this mean?

What's the context, OP?

Do you think someone can be a race at heart? What about a nationality?

If so, why - what makes them that?
If not, why?

Never heard of 'black at heart' or 'white at heart.'

Go to India (when we can travel again) you will meet a lot of white Europeans who feel Indian or Asian

I know many people who have gone to the countries their parents are from and felt at home I guess through so many cultural norms they have been bought up with

Do you think someone can be a race at heart? What about a nationality?

Race - no. I'm white and I can't pretend to know what being black is.

Nationality - yes. I have two nationalities but I only identify to one of them. The one I was raised as and where I spent all my childhood and most of my teenage years (A). My other nationality (B), I have it through my parents' heritage. I speak the language decently and have gone there on holiday multiple times, but I will never identify with it. I was born in country A, raised as A, I'm A. My parents were born in country B, raised as B, they feel B. I will never feel at home in country B or fully relate to the culture. Perhaps because my parents emigrated when they were still very young and their personalities and traditions are a mix of both countries. For us, the children, country and culture A dominated.

One of my younger brothers still hasn't had, for reasons unknown to me, his passport A processed (he's entitled to one since birth, plus the rest of us all have passport A already). So he legally isn't A, but that's what he feels, where he lives, and what he was raised as. Technically he isn't an A citizen, but he isn't B at heart either. It's a hard one for many multi-cultural families.

So is it sort of feeling/having a connection to a particular culture?

That was to @OhWhyNot

X=posted with Eileen.

OrIsTheWorldNuts no I think it’s pretentious bollocks (if you are referring to my comment about India)

Isn't it more 'black at heart' is evil and white is pure and good. Not racist

Is this from that woman who was white but pretended to be black (Rachel Dosel?). I think her logic was that she was black at heart.

Could be a bit like a transexual that doesn't have the chop, and does have hormone therapy, yet you aren't actually allowed to point out that they are not a woman.

IMO this is yet more PC bs, and I'll probably get flamed for this.

I abandoned all hope when we got told that the Noddy books were racist and we couldn't have blackboards any more.

Oi oi, it's Alf Garnett!

*Forgot to bold quote in the above post, those aren't my thoughts!

@3rdNamechange

Isn't it more 'black at heart' is evil and white is pure and good. Not racist

Oh no, not to signify good or bad. More along the lines of what others above you have written.

InsideOfEmptiness

A bit of tongue-in-cheek humour

www.quora.com/Why-is-the-name-blackboard-deemed-offensive-when-it-is-just-a-board-that-is-coloured-black-Why-was-the-name-changed-to-chalkboard-Does-the-same-apply-to-a-whiteboard

@OhWhyNot

OrIsTheWorldNuts no I think it’s pretentious bollocks (if you are referring to my comment about India)

Ok. Why do you think so? Can't they say they're Indians-at-heart? Why not?

And is an Indian person Indian-at-heart or not? Why? Why not?

@EileenGC It's interesting what you wrote about nationality. I think I can see that. So I suppose, I'll ask the same question I did above. Is it about relating to a culture or having a connection with that culture?

Also, would you say you're also white-at-heart or not? Why/why not? (That is: if you say you are, what makes you white-at-heart?)

"Black at heart" used to mean bad, and have nothing to do with skin colour. Do you refer to a new meaning, ie that someone can feel like a black person in a white body, kind of thing?

If so, then I think that claiming to be "Indian at heart" or "Scottish at heart" is slightly different to be claiming to be "black at heart". Because the former could mean that you feel a deep connection to the culture, or the landscape, or the language of a particular country. (But could still be rather iffy, if you are not Indian or Scottish, and you define "Indian" or "Scottish" as a set of dodgy stereotypes).

The latter, identifying as a skin colour "at heart" seems worse to me, as it suggests that everyone with a particular skin colour is united by some "feeling", when in fact you can't reduce everyone in the world with that skin colour to a particular culture or "feeling".

I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well. But I would be pretty sceptical of a white person claiming to be "black at heart" in that context. I would assume, at best, a severe lack of self awareness and an abundance of self importance.

I literally don’t know anyone who has ever said this. My children’s Dad is English by birth, but has lived in wales far longer than he ever lived in England, when asked he says he’s welsh. I think thats fair. If you spend a long time in a country I think you can ‘feel’ thst you are from that country.

@OrIsTheWorldNuts where did you see this used?