Only 3 live lessons pw Y11

[Timtims]

Plus Y8 DC only had 2 this week (none at all March 20 - Dec 20).

So many friends who have DCs in other schools have almost a whole timetable of live lessons.

Seems so unequal and unfair. How is a child who has had about 20 live lessons since March 20, supposed to 'compete/compare' with a child who has 20 hours per week. At GCSE!!!

No joy with speaking to school about it. They just say they are doing their best.

AIBU to think my DCs are being massively disadvantaged and let down.

(apologies if this topic has already been discussed 1000 times).

Write to head and chair of governors.

There is no evidence that says live lessons are the gold standard and the DfE do not require schools to provide them.

“ Some unhelpful myths exist about remote education, which are not based on evidence.

These include that:

remote education is fundamentally different to other forms of teaching/learning
remote education is a different curriculum/offer to the content that would be delivered normally
the best forms of remote education are digital
the best way to deliver remote education is always through live lessons
the most important thing is pupils’ engagement
None of these things are necessarily true.

Below, we counter them with evidence-based pointers.”

www.gov.uk/government/publications/whats-working-well-in-remote-education/whats-working-well-in-remote-education#some-common-myths-about-remote-education

Bearing that in mind, there is no point in complaining to Ofsted if they are getting other types of remote education.

c.4 pieces of Google Classroom work pd. Not really many videos - maybe the odd YouTube or BBC bitesize clip.

Use of Maths apps. Spelling apps for y8 DC.

prop teacher input in a way live lessons provide.

You’re assuming that the kids can actually access live lessons, which isn’t always true and that a live lesson is better than a quality video which again isn’t always true.

@noblegiraffe

prop teacher input in a way live lessons provide.

You’re assuming that the kids can actually access live lessons, which isn’t always true and that a live lesson is better than a quality video which again isn’t always true.

So because some can’t all shouldn’t

@Timtims

c.4 pieces of Google Classroom work pd. Not really many videos - maybe the odd YouTube or BBC bitesize clip.

Use of Maths apps. Spelling apps for y8 DC.

That’s really poor I would look at the dfe guidelines and speak to your head.

I deliver a mixture of live lessons and set tasks/guided PowerPoints. My students have shown overwhelming preference to the guided PowerPoints and so I only do a live lesson every 3 (ish) lessons as an opportunity to touch base and chat about the topic.

The live lessons are useful as a way to catch up and answer questions but they’re not the only way to deliver remote education.

because some can’t all shouldn’t

That’s not what I said. But from your response I’m assuming that you think that your kid will be one accessing them, not one missing out.

So your DC is not getting subject specific work OP?

Mine has four a day

Most work for y8 is something like : read this worksheet and then answer these questions.

Y11: lots of revision type stuff (interesting, as most content has not been covered as DC has only been in for c6w since March 20).
Analysis of set texts in English.
Analysis of historical sources.
Recording (by pupil) of foreign language speaking.
Maths apps (most live lessons are maths or science)

My daughter is year 11 and she has a full day of live lessons everyday, they literally mirror the lessons they would
Have had in school.
She has to be logged on at 8.30 for live form tutor registration and has registration every lesson, they even have live PE sessions and live food tech classes where they cook along.
Have to say I think her school have been fantastic since the very first lockdown.
We get weekly updates, also get videos from the head of year, calls checking in on the students etc they just been brilliant.

Seriously? How many families with parents working at home have enough devices for live lessons?
Most students when asked prefer to work at their own pace rather than live anyway. Wouldn't you at that age?
I would have hated to be online and having to speak or show my face as a teenager too.
Then you have the kids that dick about or worse like take footage of the teacher and post it elsewhere. Plus ofsted says it's not necessary.
live lessons are destined to be crappy unless you have well engaged confident young people, such as those at private school who have the parental support plus excellent behaviour. Otherwise the teacher is speaking into a void of students who have logged on and then camera off and fecked off.

That's dreadful. All our teachers are teaching full days online. DD Y8 and DS2 Y12 both having same timetabled lessons as usual.

Whereabouts are you in the UK (assume you are UK)?

"But it’s still very poor form not to provide them when the majority are. Also what could be better as Homelearning exactly?"

Not necessarily true.

In my last school, several children were sharing technology. So if all lessons are live lessons, and there are three children and one computer, the children can only attend one third of their lessons each. This is not good learning. Local news recently reported that one family was recently given a laptop, so the 6 children now have one to share. They each get one hour of a computer per day.

There's no point in making all lessons live lessons if the majority of children cannot access them. Sometimes a pre-recorded PowerPoint is better, because children can then access it when they have a computer, and it's easier to juggle one computer between two children.

I am not doing live lessons at all with my year 11. Not because I don't want to, but because they can't access live lessons. Some could, but probably only half the class. The other half can manage to watch a video and complete a worksheet, because that uses less internet, or it can be done later, when they can have the shared laptop. Putting on live lessons would exclude half my class. Sending videos (which includes all the explanations I would do in a live lesson) includes all of them. They have the facility to ask questions at any time they want, I generally answer the few questions I ever get within a few minutes. The ones who aren't accessing the videos and submitting work are also the ones I would expect to skip live lessons, or log on and then complete no work anyway.

Responses to questions are definitely not regular /anywhere near immediate. But most work gets an eventual response. Positive reinforcement of the hard work etc.

I think a mix of live lessons, pre recorded lessons and set tasks is best. Unfortunately higher year groups will be a priority and live teaching is hard-you are ‘on it’ in a different way as to how you would be in a classroom. Talking at my kids in a classroom for an hour would be terrible-why would doing it online make it better?

It's not that I'm cross with the school or the teachers.

I just think it's so unfair. Damaging for my DCs life chances

My kids are y8 and y11, no live lessons. They like videos cos you can speed up the boring bits and repeat the difficult bits. They can message the teacher with questions and they get feedback on work. My y8 had a live “form time” today which I made him go to - there were 6 kids. Guess the other 24 didn’t want live lessons either.

I’ve heard about some of the live lessons on offer at other local schools. Quite a bit of sitting listening to the teacher talk, with kids all muted and camera off. Then the teacher asks for questions, which no one asks because they’d have to unmute and that’s embarrassing. And then the kids all complete and upload some work.

I think you’re imagining that live lessons are much better than they really are!