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To wonder how some men always land on their feet?

46 replies

LemonSherbetFancies · 20/01/2021 22:24

I've known men who are serial cheats, arrogant and selfish, but somehow, they always land on their feet. You know the kind-

  1. Adoring wife/partner
  2. Lots of money in the bank
  3. Great high earning job
  4. Lots of holidays and great social life
  5. No remorse as to what they have done as they have confidence in spades and are always right.
Just me or do we all know a man like this?
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scubadub · 20/01/2021 22:30

women can have all of that too though...it's not exclusive to men! I have pretty much all of that (no holiday this year obvs though) and know plenty of other women that have it all too...

GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom · 20/01/2021 22:30

That level of confidence and self assurance can get you very very far.

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/01/2021 22:33

Yes, one of dhs colleagues. He came to my wedding, even mil fancied him 🙄.

I think I’m the only one immune to him.

CookEatRepeat · 20/01/2021 22:34

Women too.

LemonSherbetFancies · 20/01/2021 22:34

It's not about what they have, it's the fact they have all that and such a great life when they are a prize twonk.
Just thinking about one of my friends. She got treated terribly by her ex, yet within months he found someone new and now has an amazing life. Karma certainly never got him. I've seen it happen a good few times now and it does make you think.

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ReallySpicyCurry · 20/01/2021 23:16

I have an ex like that, though the tide is turning for him now, I believe. Not fast enough mind.

He has all the personality of a teatowel, and isn't anything out of the ordinary looks wise, yet never has a problem getting both women and employers to take him on

I went out with him when I was very young and naive, so that's my excuse, but honestly, he doesn't even try to be nice or charming

He is taller than most men around here, and I have hypothesised that women are attracted him because their believe his quietness in social situations is as a result of some sort of Byronic tortured soul, rather than because he'd a rude, badly brought up, arrogant twat

LemonSherbetFancies · 21/01/2021 13:00

It's one of lifes mysteries.
Feel sorry for my friend seeing her twat of an ex with his amazing life. Karma definitely does not exist.
I am lucky that I have a man who has all the points I mentioned in my OP but number 5 of course.

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MyCatHatesEverybody · 21/01/2021 13:05

Of course karma doesn't exist (not for what's being described here anyway), if it did we'd be having to ask what your friend did to deserve what happened to her...

romany4 · 21/01/2021 13:08

I have a brother like this.
He is an awful person. There's a reason why I haven't seen him or had any contact in 18 years..

HT7654 · 21/01/2021 13:09

I think they may be a “prize twonk” to the person they hurt and that persons friends and family but to other people in their lives they may be great. Family, friends, work colleagues. Fidelity isn’t the only measure of how popular someone is.

ShastaBeast · 21/01/2021 13:14

Men are allowed to make mistakes. They are forgiven and excuses are made. Women aren’t afforded the same consideration as women are seen as two dimensional, unlike complex men. Other women perpetuate this. Men with less shame will do well.

formerbabe · 21/01/2021 13:17

Yes of course
And I will put myself forward for a flaming and say they are invariably white and middle class.
The combination of white privilege, male privilege and class privilege make some men believe they're masters of the universe.

user1493413286 · 21/01/2021 13:23

I’ve known younger men like that but often by their 50s and 60s it’s fallen apart; their kids can see through them and don’t want much to do with them and they can’t attract younger women/women can see through what they are at an older age. They still have their money but it doesn’t come to much

havemybreakfastthen · 21/01/2021 13:23

Yes I know a man like this, sadly I'm related to him.
I know what he's really like yet he has no trouble making people think what a great guy he is....and as for his adoring partner - she's equally as awful. On occasion people do seem to recognise that in her more than they do him though.

hammeringinmyhead · 21/01/2021 13:26

I know a few. Quite a few who divorced, took their earnings of 5 times their wife's salary and bought a very nice detached house with new girlfriend.

Narniacalling · 21/01/2021 13:32

Karma does not exist.
It’s survival of the fittest and all they have done is work out how to survive better than you or your friend.
That’s all.

VenusClapTrap · 21/01/2021 13:33

I’ve known younger men like that but often by their 50s and 60s it’s fallen apart

Me too. Sad lonely old men.

Porcupineintherough · 21/01/2021 13:38

@formerbabe dont you believe it. I know a few afro-Caribbean men and more than a few Nigerians who also would comfortably fit in this category. I think it's a mixture of charm and an unerring instinct for vulnerability.

1940s · 21/01/2021 13:38

@scubadub

women can have all of that too though...it's not exclusive to men! I have pretty much all of that (no holiday this year obvs though) and know plenty of other women that have it all too...
Are you a serial cheater and arrogant?
SuburbanCrofter · 21/01/2021 13:40

*I’ve known younger men like that but often by their 50s and 60s it’s fallen apart

Me too. Sad lonely old men.*

Just look at Johnny Depp.

formerbabe · 21/01/2021 13:46

[quote Porcupineintherough]@formerbabe dont you believe it. I know a few afro-Caribbean men and more than a few Nigerians who also would comfortably fit in this category. I think it's a mixture of charm and an unerring instinct for vulnerability.[/quote]
I believe you...male privilege as a stand alone is a huge force behind these personality types.

Confidence/arrogance goes so far imo. I remember a guy I worked with. I thought he was incredibly unattractive both in terms of looks and personality. The women used to flock round him..I found it baffling. The thing was he had absolute confidence that he was a massive prize and really something special. For a fleeting moment I almost doubted myself and thought I must be missing something great about him.

GingerNorthernLass · 21/01/2021 13:52

Yes, I've known a few over the ones.

However, it is starting to unravel for one of them. Shame....

Sparklfairy · 21/01/2021 13:54

The grass isn't always greener though. On the face of it, my ex is madly in love with his new GF. Pictures all loved up all over SM (bleugh).

The truth, I suspect, because I know him, is very different. The reality will be more that he's moved in with her very quickly due to lockdown, but resents 'sharing' GF with her young child. He doesn't like children. He certainly won't want to play daddy. He won't be getting 'enough' sex because he'll see the kid as being 'in the way' and I'm sure reality is biting. He has commitment issues and is very self centred. It is far from his ideal relationship but on the outside everything looks perfect.

apalledandshocked · 21/01/2021 13:55

Some men fall up

As a side note, has anyone noticed the bizarely common phenomenon which is very attractive woman who looks after herself well partnered with a man who is an absolute state in terms of looks, clothing and personality (and generally I wouldnt bitch about peoples looks, but I could sort of understand a horrible man getting attention if he was also good looking). Similar dichotomy of appearance as female-male Fox newsreaders. Stranger still, its always the woman running about trying to keep the man happy/hers. Maybe its because women are more socialised to be people pleasers etc but its bizarre.

BarryTheKestrel · 21/01/2021 13:56

I have a friend like this. Anecdotally he's cheated his way though every relationship he's ever been in but has the most incredible partner (who can't or won't see it) , somehow owns a business that is doing amazingly well, has the house, the cars, the holidays. He has confidence, charm and charisma and somehow always gets away with murder. We aren't close friends but chat occasionally, he is always charming and if i didn't know better I'd say he was one of the good ones. Sadly, i know better.

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