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To ask people with depression for advice.

33 replies

Breezing32 · 19/01/2021 18:21

I am with someone with depression. He's ok mostly in regards to me. He's always kind. Funny. Thoughtful. Loving. He's currently having a wobble. He's had one before that lasted a few days and then he was ok again. He wasn't unkind just defeated. Quiet. Sleepy. Less contact. He went from loving sex to not mentioning it at all.

Anyway Saturday he sent me a lovely present through the post. We chatted that afternoon. Then we had arranged a phone call before bed. But I knew he was shattered so I said shall we chat tomorrow instead. He asked if I was sure. Then off he went to sleep. Since then he's like a different person. Sunday he messaged me at teatime when he finally got up. But then he fell back to sleep. I tossed and turned all night because I just knew he wasn't ok. It was out of character.

Monday morning after no sleep I called him at 6.45. he had taken a tablet that causes drowsiness to help him sleep from the gp. He then turned his phone off without telling anyone. He was groggy. He was abit defensive when he answered the phone. I remained calm and said I'm not calling because I want attention from you. I am calling because I care that's all and you've slept for over 24 hours. I said I loved him so therefore I was going to care.. He calmed a little and admitted his was feeling horrible and down. He muddled through work then went to sleep again last night at 7pm. Normally he would call or text before sleep if we hadn't met up. But nothing.

This morning he messaged to say good morning beautiful as he often does. He said he still wasn't feeling happy and hoped a few early nights would help. Then he said he hadn't eaten for two days.

I have set a shopping slot up and told him I'll help him sort a shop out. As I understand he's not coping. He went to work today. I found myself overthinking. Can I cope with this? Can I handle this? Will this become a regular thing?

I decided to call him after work. I tried to talk about how he was feeling and ask him what I could do to help. He instantly got defensive and said what have I done wrong. Why are you acting like I've punished you. You are sulking because I haven't been speaking to you as much the last two days. One minute you're all over me like a rash the next you're like this. Then he said I'm the only person he argues with.

He just said aload of defensive stroppy things. I tried to explain to him that I have feelings too. I'm trying to be there for him. But it's so hard seeing him so sad. I told him again it is so hard for me that because of Corona I can't go to his house and make him a cuppa and be there. I said I feel useless. He said well what can you even do to help me anyway?

Because he's been ignoring his phone alot and not really communicating like normal I have been trying to respect his space and I've only sent the minimum so he knows I care.

Just before he got of the phone he said, I hate being on My phone when I'm like this. If you want to message you can. It will be on charge. I said to him. I understand you need space so you can contact me first if you fancy a chat. He reacted badly to that.

I'm just struggling. It's like he doesn't want to talk but he wants me to message. But he's making me feel like he doesn't want to message back.

His attitude is very much stuff everyone else. He's been unkind about me. He said I had too much time on my hands and I overthink. Overall just feel like he's a complete ice block at the moment.

We got off the phone and an hour later I get a text to say he loves me.

I know this is just a horrible stage. But I don't know what to not take personally. I don't know what to do. What to say. How to feel.

Anyone with depression who can perhaps translate what he's perhaps saying with these reactions? I can't seem to do the right thing.

Please only reply if you can understand this sort of thing and not to just tell me to dump him. He's a great bloke usually. This is awful seeing him so different.

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Ploddingalong67 · 19/01/2021 18:35

Hi Op,

I really feel for you. I've been in a very similar situation to you in the past and it's really really tough. I can't imagine how hard it is at the moment when you're not able to see eachother...

For me, it got to the point where I couldn't cope seeing the person I loved in such a deep depression. You have to also think about yourself, if it's having a negative impact on you then you have to ask yourself if it's worth it. I decided in the end, it was too much for me to handle, my mental health really suffered with the ups and downs.

Be as supportive as you can without being overbearing. If he's asking for space then give him it, as hard as that is. Check in every so often if you don't hear from him. Not an easy experience, hoping others can give some better insight. Wishing you luck x

Baxer · 19/01/2021 18:39

I speak as someone who has had severe bouts of depression at times.

I wouldn’t have a relationship with someone like me. I’ve seen what my dh has been through supporting me and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone

user1174147897 · 19/01/2021 18:41

I felt a bit suffocated reading your post. It's too much.

Are you employed as his carer or are you his partner? Why are you trying to monitor and supervise his sleep? Did he ask you to set up shopping deliveries?

The dynamic here isn't right. I don't know why you're trying to rescue him.

mynameiscalypso · 19/01/2021 18:43

I have bouts of severe depression and, honestly, I'd find your behaviour quite smothering. I know it comes from a good place but I generally just want to be left alone and not feeling like I'm being nagged (even if you're not, when you're depressed, you tend to see everything that way).

Wolfiefan · 19/01/2021 18:43

You can’t solve this for him.
He needs to see a GP and seek proper help.
You need to take a massive step back until he does.
And yes I suffer with depression.

NoOneOwnsTheRainbow · 19/01/2021 18:44

Please only reply if you can understand this sort of thing and not to just tell me to dump him.
Can't it be both? Because I understand this sort of thing and I still think this isn't a good situation for either of you. You're falling into the role of being his mother/carer, and by the sounds of it, he's getting resentful for the help he hasn't asked you for. I think you both have some fundamental communication issues (his presumably because it's really hard to communicate when you're in a depressive phase) and it doesn't sound like you're on the same page.

LakieLady · 19/01/2021 18:46

I've suffered with depression on and off for the best part of 40 years.

When I'm down, the best way to treat me is to leave me to wallow in it, but make sure I know that I can ring you and you'll be there for me.

Anything more than that just makes me feel pressured, and that makes me feel worse.

BeMoreLikeBuddy · 19/01/2021 18:46

My depression ended my marriage, he sounds like he’s feeling overwhelmed.
I personally wouldn’t get involved with someone in the stage (I know that includes me at some points).
How long have you been together?

crapcrap · 19/01/2021 18:48

It's different for everyone.. I'm going through something similar at the moment but I am the depressed one. Some people as before have said they'd feel smothered, but for me, I need my partner. He's been distant with me so I'm being distant with him. But for some reason which I can't explain I cannot verbalise to him that I need him?
I really feel for you, it's a horrible situation. You've got to work out whether you can cope and whether it'll affect your mental health. I'm one of these that tries to deal with it by myself. Not always the healthiest way but it's just how I deal with it. I know logically he does not know how I am feeling because I haven't told him.

I hope you can find some sort of answer. Wishing you luck xxx

VinceNoirsShinyBoots · 19/01/2021 18:49

@LakieLady

I've suffered with depression on and off for the best part of 40 years.

When I'm down, the best way to treat me is to leave me to wallow in it, but make sure I know that I can ring you and you'll be there for me.

Anything more than that just makes me feel pressured, and that makes me feel worse.

I actually agree with this. I can get pretty volatile when I take things the wrong way... which a bad bout of depression makes me do constantly.
paisley256 · 19/01/2021 18:50

You sound so very lovely and thoughtful. I wonder if he just wants to be left alone, maybe a relationship is too much for him even if he does really like you. Hope you're ok and things improve.

Deinosavros · 19/01/2021 18:51

When I was in the worst parts of my depression, I found having to respond to my ExH's constant communication exhausting. I felt like I had to spend time reassuring him, which is how your post reads to me if I'm honest. Having said that I was never unpleasant to him, just hugely tired and frustrated.

DidgeDoolittle · 19/01/2021 18:52

I suffer from depression. I have had periods on and off all my life.
I would have been seriously unimpressed at a phone call at 6:45. Depression is at its worst in the morning. I just want to be left alone. I hate people chivying me along to do things that are good for me. I know what's good for me. I just can't do it. I don't need people telling me.
I think living with someone like me must be very difficult. However, my advice is to be there when he wants, but take a step back.

TinCanCollector · 19/01/2021 18:52

It’s possible to have depression and be a nasty arsehole, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

amusedtodeath1 · 19/01/2021 18:52

The problem is that a lot of the time when you're that low, your feelings aren't always rational. He knows he's unreasonable but he can't help it. A lot of people will withdraw simply because they don't want to hurt people or make them unhappy, but then will also feel abandoned if they don't hear from people.

You really need to discuss how best to help him when he's not in a down phase. Right now he probably doesn't know what he wants or needs.

Just message him to let him know that you're here for him. Don't ask him questions, just make statements of love, support and acceptance. Once this phase is over you need to discuss how best to help him in case it happens again.

We are living through exceptional times so it's not that surprising that he's having a bad time tbh. You sound like a great girlfriend OP, I hope his mood lifts soon. Flowers

mynameiscalypso · 19/01/2021 18:52

@Deinosavros

When I was in the worst parts of my depression, I found having to respond to my ExH's constant communication exhausting. I felt like I had to spend time reassuring him, which is how your post reads to me if I'm honest. Having said that I was never unpleasant to him, just hugely tired and frustrated.
Yes, I felt quite exhausted reading the OP's post. You rang him at 6.45am? I'd definitely find that too much.
user1174147897 · 19/01/2021 18:53

I would have been seriously unimpressed at a phone call at 6:45

I don't think that's exclusive to people with depression.

Breezing32 · 19/01/2021 18:56

He's under the drs on anti depressants.

I am not monitoring his sleep but he was asleep for 24 hours. Totally weird for a functioning human so I noticed.
He's been to the shop to buy dinner and he's currently cooking. He said I made him realise earlier he needs to look after himself again.
He said he couldn't think to shop because he was unhappy this week so I've set him a slot up and said I'll order whatever he wants. He hates online shopping. He sees greatful for that. But I appreciate it might read that I'm being controlling.

I am not sure if it's best for me going forward no. I'm not quite ready to give it up and I certainly don't want to destroy him whilst he's down. It is giving me an anxious feeling.

We've been together 6 months. So it's new but 95% of the time it's a really positive fun relationship. The last two weeks we've not really been able to meet due to covid.

It's certainly hard. I don't harrass. I send one message until he replies. I'm not a pest. But I did call him Monday morning through genuine concern incase he had died in his sleep or something. I can stress how out of character that was.

I hope I'm not smothering. But I also agree I don't want to be forever his carer. But he's actually my strength often and we have so much fun together. So he's not a burden at all.

Just having doubts whilst this is happening

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Ohhgreat · 19/01/2021 18:57

Exactly what @LakieLady said
You can't fix it, don't try to. He can go without food for a couple of days, rather than a shopping delivery (which is like telling him he can't cope and is useless), do a food gift, box of brownies or similar. That way he has something to eat but as a gift.
Let him know you are there if he wants you, but don't force it.

Breezing32 · 19/01/2021 18:58

He starts work at 7 so 6.45 he's up and rolling.

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user1174147897 · 19/01/2021 19:02

This is way too much after 6 months. If he's not able to even feed himself he should have a carer or be under secondary mental health services.

Are you normally this much of a rescuer?

TheQueenRaven · 19/01/2021 19:03

I wouldn’t have a relationship with someone like me. I’ve seen what my dh has been through supporting me and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone

Brave words from @Baxer with which I sadly concur.

TheOneLeggedJockey · 19/01/2021 19:08

I think you need to do what he’s asking - leave him alone.

Let him come to you when he’s ready.

I do think you’re throwing your own mental health under the bus for the sake of his. Or you will be, if you stick it out.

CrazyToast · 19/01/2021 19:09

When depression hits you get selfish, that's part of it. Also he will find it harder to reply to you. It's part and parcel. It's best to just do one or two messages to let him know you are there for him then let him be--- for a bit of time anyway. Obviously if it goes on for a while you'll have to find another way. Sorry OP, it is shit to have depression and shit to be with someone who has depression.

I also want to say that it isn't a reason to treat you badly, say mean things or treat you like you don't matter. If he tries to say it is, don't let him. Depressed people can really play on their depression to get away with alsorts. You can give him some leeway but your expectations of how he treats you should not lower.

I say that as someone who has struggled with depression for years.

Breezing32 · 19/01/2021 19:11

If you read my op I said to him to contact me if he wants a chat. Within an hour he text to say he loved me.

I don't smother him.

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