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To think that serial killers can’t exist these days?

261 replies

Snooks1971 · 15/01/2021 18:30

Or actually get away with murder enough to become a serial killer maybe I should say. Just finished Night Stalker on Netflix, which made me think about this, although I’ve thought along these lines before. Have always been fascinated with Jack The Ripper after visiting Madame Tussaud’s as a young teen (late 40s now).

I haven’t googled any facts and I’m just an armchair observer, but surely with mobile phones, cctv, forensic developments, tech interfaces actually talking to each other this wouldn’t be possible now.

Then I wonder how many serial killers from the past that we have never of who must have got away with it. Makes my mind boggle a bit.

OP posts:
OwlLovesTea · 17/01/2021 22:06

Oh is the pembrokeshire murders on netflix?

PurplePansy05 · 17/01/2021 22:08

The Pembrokeshire Murders was on ITV, you can still catch up.

Livelovebehappy · 17/01/2021 22:24

I was thinking the same recently, after the death of the Yorkshire Ripper. I remember being a teen when he was around, and that they seemed so many serial killers and child killers around at that time. Now we don’t get near the same amount. I think it’s due to the internet. I think potential killers can now get their kicks online whereas before they had to physically go out seeking victims to feed their sick addictions/needs.

Emeraldshamrock · 17/01/2021 23:19

Even when suspicions are there without evidence they can go untouched.
I bet there is lots under the radar too.
The pattern of women going missing across Ireland suggests they are linked but without bodies or evidence it seems impossible to prove.

umpteennamechanges · 17/01/2021 23:24

@RedWineLlps

Op you should read a book called A History of British Serial Killers by David Wilson. It goes into a bit of detail about why there were so many serial killers post world war 1 & 2. Only half way through but it’s fascinating x

Thanks! Will check this out...

umpteennamechanges · 17/01/2021 23:27

@Penistoe

This sounds a bit too much like I’m not a serial killer but if I was, how would I get away with it?

I do sometimes think I could become a serial killer when I'm about 80 years old.

Obviously I'd have to find a way of killing that was quick and didn't require much physical strength and took people by surprise enough for them not to fight back...

...but without using a gun because they're hard to get in the UK and traceable.

CSIblonde · 17/01/2021 23:29

I watched that documentary where a US psychiatrist who has interviewed every caught serial killer in Death Row developed a scale for serial killers from one to 20, re level of violence & no of victims. He,the Police & the other criminal psychologist estimated there are currently 24 serial killers at large in the US. Also, the top country in the league table for most no of serial killers is the US .

Dugee · 17/01/2021 23:37

www.cracked.com/pictofacts-2169-15-creepy-crimes-that-were-never-solved/

Here are some strange ones, that have never been solved.

Thewithesarehere · 17/01/2021 23:39

@BlackAmericanoNoSugar

A horrible thought struck me when the video of George Floyd being murdered first came to light. I thought, looking at the police officer, that he was committing murder as a form of stress relief. He was pissed off with Mr Floyd, didn't care about him as a person and clearly felt that he could get away with what he was doing despite it being filmed. I had the strongest feeling that he was practised in his technique, that he had done it before and that he was enjoying it.

If I was a white male serial killer who didn't much care who I killed so long as could do it regularly, then an American police officer in a racially diverse urban area would be ideal.

This is one of the scariest posts I have ever read on Mumsnet. Sad
Happylittlethoughts · 18/01/2021 00:19

180, 000 people go missing per year.
You don't need forensics unless you find them dead.

caringcarer · 18/01/2021 02:20

Dennis Neilson in UK killed and ate his victims and the packpack killer in Australia. Sadly I think there will always be these sick minded people who enjoy killing others.

covetingthepreciousthings · 18/01/2021 08:09

Dennis Neilson in UK killed and ate his victims

On another thread a while ago, I always remember someone posted to say either they or a friend worked with him? And he used to always bring the most delicious curries into the office Shock

covetingthepreciousthings · 18/01/2021 08:17

Went down a bit of a black hole yesterday of looking into unsolved murders, it struck me that there was a bit of a spate of dog walker murders (women walking dogs in rural locations viciously killed), made me wonder if they are linked. I think at least 3 of them the police seem to think are linked due to the similarities and I think a DNA profile. I'm assuming it isn't a known serial killer otherwise the DNA would have flagged up?
Don't think there's been any for some time though so not that recent.

These are the cases I'm thinking of - (there was also the Chillenden murders, I know that Stone is in prison for them, but that seemed to have a lot of uncertainty about him being convicted of it?) -

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/unsolved-murder-lyn-bryant-could-2088359

Cornishtiger · 18/01/2021 08:28

@covetingthepreciousthings I had not put Lynns case of this thread previously but yes firm belief that it was planned and serial. The location can not have been opportunistic.

Cornishtiger · 18/01/2021 08:32

Also they have a partial match of DNA for Lynns killer but no dna link to the other murders.

Sarahandduck18 · 18/01/2021 09:51

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lindsay_Rimer

I always thought this sounded like the work of a serial killer.

Tazers · 18/01/2021 11:40

I don't think it's been mentioned yet but has everyone seen Mind Hunter?

iklboo · 18/01/2021 11:44

Tazers - AMAZING show. I've downloaded the book but not started it yet.

OwlLovesTea · 18/01/2021 11:50

Does it take a while to get going. I watched the first two, having heard how good it is, and usually loving all crime shows, and finding profiling fascinating, but it was so slow.

Dugee · 18/01/2021 13:54

I watched the Yorkshire Ripper doc not that long ago and was just so shocked and saddened by the way the case was handled. I really felt for man who was the son of one of the victims. Very sad for all those affected by the ripper.

Richard, son of Wilma McCann? Richard and Sonia realised their mother wasn't home and went out to look for her (they were 5 and 6 years old at the time). Sonia later took her own life. The victims had 25 children between them, all horrifically traumatised.

Dugee · 18/01/2021 13:54

@Emeraldshamrock

I'm not aware of a pattern of missing women in Ireland, do you have any more information please?

covetingthepreciousthings · 19/01/2021 13:08

Richard, son of Wilma McCann? Richard and Sonia realised their mother wasn't home and went out to look for her (they were 5 and 6 years old at the time). Sonia later took her own life. The victims had 25 children between them, all horrifically traumatised.

Yes that's the one, I didn't mean I felt sorry for him above the rest, it's tragic for all concerned just he stuck in my mind afterwards was all.

x2boys · 19/01/2021 13:15

I watched all the ripper episodes yesterday evening ,the police were awful about those women
They handled the case terribly

Dugee · 19/01/2021 13:17

Yes that's the one, I didn't mean I felt sorry for him above the rest, it's tragic for all concerned just he stuck in my mind afterwards was all.

I didn't mean to come across as snippy. I was just giving you some more information. Richard and Sonia stuck in my mind too, the thought of them realising their mother wasn't there and going out to look for her, when they were so young, is heartbreaking.

Dugee · 19/01/2021 13:20

I watched all the ripper episodes yesterday evening ,the police were awful about those women. They handled the case terribly

Unbelievably sexist. It's interesting to compare with the Ipswich sex worker murders in 2006.

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