Biden our time until Inauguration Day! (Trump #121) 🙂🕊

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With thanks to @FridayNightAtTheBronzer for thread title

Oooh thanks for that Lion, just followed him.

A comment from a Florida Repub
"It's a horrible feeling. I don't like what they did to the president."

Not sure who 'they' are and what 'they' did except win an election fair and square, much like Trump did 4 years ago.

My friends in Naples, Florida will be glued to the Inauguration, they loathe Trump

@lionheart

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/18/fbi-national-guard-biden-inauguration-trump-washington

'Thousands of military personnel guarding Joe Biden’s inauguration as US president on Wednesday are being vetted by the FBI amid fears of an insider attack.'

It's a little worrying that they aren't already vetted FFS.

Flags laid out on the National Mall for those who cannot attend the ceremony.

@lionheart

Does anyone know if it's true that Trump can issue 'secret pardons'?

He probably can.

Whether a court can - or would - act on it would be another matter. Not a chance I'd like to take if my liberty depended on it.

I imagine for provenance there would have to be a corroborating copy at the White House. Otherwise anyone could rock up to court with a potato-print pardon and say "It's real, but Donald didn't tell anyone".

In fact the more I think about it the more I'd be amazed if it didn't have to be registered as a public document somewhere.

DGRossetti I believe they are already vetted, but it's an update, because people can change/reveal themselves/become radicalised. Vetting needs to be ongoing and this is an event specific extra vet. As I understand it.

Meh DGRossetti failed bolding.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/biden-trump-2020-election-transition-inauguration/?id=75311140&cid=social_twitter_abcn#75331757

Something here on those 'secret pardons.'

thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/534222-how-to-stop-trumps-secret-pardons

@giletrouge

DGRossetti I believe they are already vetted, but it's an update, because people can change/reveal themselves/become radicalised. Vetting needs to be ongoing and this is an event specific extra vet. As I understand it.

An admission that you've not been doing things properly in the past is hardly a great way to instil confidence in the future ...

[quote lionheart]Something here on those 'secret pardons.'

thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/534222-how-to-stop-trumps-secret-pardons[/quote]
OK, count me "amazed".

Maybe all countries are like this, but it seems to me the US is an endearing mix of 21st century high tech, and mickey mouse. And I am aware I write that from a country that has a Queen.

Boris Johnson gaslighting a nation. I guess the advantage of being PM is delegating lying.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55714276

Johnson 'glad' to see Trump go, says ex-Civil Service head Lord Sedwill

There were 2 versions of that article...

Flags laid out on the National Mall for those who cannot attend the ceremony.

That is a huge crowd!
But who will verify if they correspond to actual people? How many were sent by dead people?

4 long years

Dino Sofos @dinosofos
It’s time to rewatch this amazing @BBCNewsnight opening montage from Trump’s inauguration

twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1351468933233201155?s=19

@DGRossetti

I wouldn’t be surprised if Boris really didn’t like Trump. He was pretty un complimentary when he was London mayor.

[quote ChazsBrilliantAttitude]@DGRossetti

I wouldn’t be surprised if Boris really didn’t like Trump. He was pretty un complimentary when he was London mayor.[/quote]
As uncomplimentary as he was about Obama ?

For some reason, one thing that has stuck with me these past few months is the repeated and never-denied story that Biden took Boris dissing of Obama personally.

Speaking of Obama, is there any scope, desire, or use in using him as a special envoy to project the decent side of the US back around the world again ? It would be criminal to have a secret weapon like that in your arsenal and not deploy it.

Depending on Obamas wishes, of course.

@DGRossetti

Boris Johnson gaslighting a nation. I guess the advantage of being PM is delegating lying.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55714276

Johnson 'glad' to see Trump go, says ex-Civil Service head Lord Sedwill

I am not entirely sure about that, for all the public feting (in pursuit of a Brexit saving trade deal) Boris and co are deeply entrenched old school establishment and Trump is their antithesis - uncouth 'new money'' as a person regardless of any party alignment with Republican political values. His dalliances with Farage were also an embarrassment. Boris will surely be glad to see the back of the direct Trump/Boris 'two fools' comparisons in the media........

That entire article is a load of bollocks. Every Brexiteer Tory must have been cheering the loudest for Trump. Because without Trump for contrast, Brexit looks really shit, and I can easily see the incoming administration making that point. Repeatedly.

Sifting through what the UK has done to the US, it makes more sense now as to why Brexit really hurts the US and is going to continue doing so for a very long time.

Weren't the Chieftains invited to play ?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-woody-guthrie-fred-trump_n_60060d45c5b6ffcab966e306?ri18n=true

'President Donald Trump managed to turn the release of the names of famous figures who will be depicted in the White House’s“National Garden of American Heroes” into a self-own.

Some of the names announced on Monday for the garden include Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, Elvis Presley, Kobe Bryant and Julia Child.

But the most surprising one submitted by the Trump administration may be songwriter Woody Guthrie, composer of “This Land Is Your Land,” for reasons both political and personal.'

Unlike Irish senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who publicly nailed Trump in Nov 2016.

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin: 'America has just elected a fascist'
www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/aodhán-ó-r%C3%ADordáin-america-has-just-elected-a-fascist-1.2873621

And note that, even though Ó Ríordáin has proved to be spot on about Trump, he didn't attempt to claim that somehow Trump hadn't been elected, or that the process of democracy should be overturned.

From lionheart's link

Opening lyrics frm Woody Guthrie's song Old Man Trump

"I suppose that Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate
He stirred up in that bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed that color line
Here at his Beach Haven family project.”

Like father, like son

I'm looking forward to watching all the former democratic, if not Democrat, Presidents together. I imagine there will be huge grins under those masks.

Maybe the person who submitted Woody Guthrie is the same one who came up with the tiny desk and using YMCA

"The president is unlikely to issue pre-emptive pardons to his children and other close associates, despite weeks of internal battles among White House aides, sources with knowledge of the conversations confirmed to ABC News. The sources went on to say that they do not expect Trump to issue a pardon for himself. The sources noted the conversations have been fluid and the president has been known to change his mind at times."

Ain't that the truth!

About the "private pardons" notion, keeping them hidden in a safe until needed: he would have to prove that he wrote them while he was president, wouldn't he? Otherwise just any old ex-pres could issue pardons, and I'm sure that's not allowed.

I'll see you, and raise you, re Old Trump, with Joan Baez "Nasty Man"