To think rapid weightloss in the morbidly obese isn't an accurate representation of weightloss for most people?

[Halfadamnlb]

I'm currently 10st 7 and want to get down to 9.5st, I'm overweight but not obese.

I've been making changes to my diet and lifestyle for a little over two weeks and giving it my all.

Daily walks for at least an hour, sometimes two hours.

No sugar in my hot drinks and I've switched from whole milk to skimmed.

I have cut out all unhealthy snacks like chocolate and crisps which I was eating most days.

I'm eating smaller portions at dinner time.

Drinking alot more water.

Doing some light cardio at home in addition to the long walks.

I have lost a measly 0.5lb, if that.

Meanwhile on a weight loss group on Facebook there are women bragging about having lost 12lbs in a bloody week.

The people who are posting this type of loss are, in their own admission, morbidly obese.

Therefore, in my opinion, such losses aren't representative of the reality of dieting for most people.

It's demotivating to work so hard on something and see such a miniscule loss then to read somebody has lost 12lb and done so well by "just cutting out takeaways"

AIBU?

Sorry didn't realise that was going to get to an advert for a product - but the article itself isn't bad

I think I'm going to park it for the rest of the week then start from fresh next Monday now I know where I'm going wrong.

I don't think the contrast from eating next to nothing last week to then eating 3 times per day (albeit the wrong things) and then resorting back to eating next to nothing today (yoghurt and fruit for breakfast, then a banana for lunch) - is doing me any good.

I've upped my water intake today and I just feel really nauseous and tired.

Unless I'm coming down with something then I'm attributing it to bad dieting.

I need to make a healthy plan and stick to it which I'm more confident that I can do now after all of the support on this thread.

I'm going to give the bootcamp a go and I found the video really interesting and useful too.

Hugh FW new book is good. Interesting fact is that the victorians used to eat 4-5000 calories a day and weren't obese, cavemen ate thousands more. But not processed. It's the concept of available calories. So focus on whole foods, fibre, fat, fermented foods and your healthy weight should follow

I'll have a look for that book Y6, thanks.

Love that fact about Victorians and cave men!

So basically the less processed food your body has a harder time extracting calories (think sweetcorn!) and that's why they give fortisip to oldies who are poorly.

Also apparently if your gut flora is better you will not gain weight and you will deal with junk food even, much better than someone with poor gut flora. So focus on prebiotics and probiotics, fermented food etc.
Full fat dairy is not the enemy, Michael moseley raves about it. I switched the family to full fat milk and if anything they've lost weight

I don't think so! Queen Victoria was only 4 ft 11 inches tall but weighed 275 pounds at her heaviest!

And cavemen had to cope with periods of time without any food, when hunting or available foods were scarce.

The cavemen and the victorians hardly had sugar, and had regular, consistent, strenuous exercise. They must have been rock solid!

@Eckhart

The cavemen and the victorians hardly had sugar, and had regular, consistent, strenuous exercise. They must have been rock solid!

but the victorians had barrel loads of bread and spuds.

There was a guardian article a while ago that said we are more calories in the 1970s, we're the same amount active but the obesity problem didn't exist. It's all big food companies' fault

It's far harder to loose the last few pounds! I also don't think you are overweight!

@Y67b

There was a guardian article a while ago that said we are more calories in the 1970s, we're the same amount active but the obesity problem didn't exist. It's all big food companies' fault

I doubt 'we' are the same amount active tbh. private car ownership is much higher today. and kids don't play outside all afternoon anymore.

I dunno it was pretty compelling and well researched

The obesity epidemic started at the same time as the food guidelines were introduced, recommending a low fat/high carb diet.

Yes, @redcandlelight, the Victorians had a lot of bread and spuds. Was there a point you were making with that?

@BIWI

I don't think so! Queen Victoria was only 4 ft 11 inches tall but weighed 275 pounds at her heaviest

Do you think that QV was a reasonably average person in society to draw conclusions from? Or can you think of any ways in which her lifestyle might have been different from your standard Victorian Joe?

bread and spuds contain a lot of refined carbs which are supposedly evil...

@redcandlelight

bread and spuds contain a lot of refined carbs which are supposedly evil...

Bread and spuds are not supposedly evil. Bread and spuds are carbs, and carbs must be burned off with movement before body fat can be used.

@Y67b

There was a guardian article a while ago that said we are more calories in the 1970s, we're the same amount active but the obesity problem didn't exist. It's all big food companies' fault

It's not about the number of calories though, it's the type of calories. We weren't all eating pasta and rice-based meal, drinking fizzy pop all the time or ordering in pizzas! Instead, we were eating meat and two veg, with potatoes, for our main meals - much less carbohydrate in comparison. We also snacked much less often.

Yes exactly. I agree

If people didn't used to eat do much sugar, why was it rationed in wartime to 'only' half a pound per person per week?

That's like a family of 4 using a whole bag every week. We use about 2 a year and I bake quite a lot.

Do you not think those people would love just to have a stone to loose.

Get some perspective woman. 🙄. They aren’t talking to you, they are talking to other v overweight people.

But other than that it doesn’t sound like you are eating a whole lot. There is hardly any protein in the day you describe, lots of carbs, no or little veg, calories all weighted to evening. I think you need more protein and veg - if you need some healthy eating advice maybe look at a programme like second nature which is quite balanced.

Anyone who has ever done slimming world
Or similar and been beaten to slimmer of the week agrees

Nothing worse than loosing 4 lbs and being over the moon, when someone with more to lose claims that much coveted fruit hamper

Says me, currently weighing 21st 4 lbs, and know I could lose 12lbs in my first week of a diet if I really pushed it.

@BarbaraofSeville

If people didn't used to eat do much sugar, why was it rationed in wartime to 'only' half a pound per person per week?

That's like a family of 4 using a whole bag every week. We use about 2 a year and I bake quite a lot.

You're not taking into account all the hidden sugars we eat. Pre-made savoury food is full of it. And do you not buy jam? Ketchup? Ice cream? Chocolate? Ovaltine? Yoghurts? Cereal? Pop/squash? Baked beans? Pickles/chutney? If you do buy those things, and many more, could you account for the amount of sugar in them from your 2 bags a year, and still have enough left to bake quite a lot?

Do you not think those people would love just to have a stone to loose. Get some perspective woman. 🙄. They aren’t talking to you, they are talking to other v overweight people

You're right. My opening post is insensitive. If I have offended anybody reading then I'm sorry.

@BarbaraofSeville

If people didn't used to eat do much sugar, why was it rationed in wartime to 'only' half a pound per person per week?

That's like a family of 4 using a whole bag every week. We use about 2 a year and I bake quite a lot.

I love to know what you bake quite often and yet use less than 2 bags of sugar a year.

Me too @C0NNIE!