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I need help to understand Zombies.

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Cocolapew · 09/01/2021 00:15

In Zombie films if a Zombie bites you, you become one, but what about the people who Zombies devour? Surely they can't become a Zombie with missing limbs, how would they chase anyone if they had no legs?

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Cocolapew · 09/01/2021 00:45

[quote NoSensei]@Cocolapew in TWD sometimes the zombies are just heads chomping away waiting for a victim Grin[/quote]
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mumwon · 09/01/2021 00:49

this explains Trump

Sinful8 · 09/01/2021 00:50

@Mypathtriedtokillme

Yeah it’s set in Georgia. A revoltingly humid hot place is summer. It would just be maggot city.

Also if they are eating they would be shitting themselves.
How can you get snuck up on by something that’s literally a bag of walking rot, stinking and leaving a trail if shit behind it??

Because the smell is covered by all the other rotting corpses, rats, stray dogs etc?
bumblingbovine49 · 09/01/2021 01:12

In the Walking Dead (TWD), everyone who dies turns into a zombie regardless of how they die.. Being bitten just makes you very ill, which kills you and then you turn into a zombie. This means that when anyone dies their brain must be destroyed immediately before the person 'turns'

Most zombies seem to have died of something other than a zombie bite but I imagine that as zombies are so slow, most people get away after being bitten and then turn into zombies after they die of the bite.

If you are attacked by a few and can't get away, they do eat you but in TWD they seem to focus on eating your internal organs and they only like live meat so maybe as soon as you are dead and have become a zombie they stop eating quite quickly. They definitely don't eat each other

Furries · 09/01/2021 01:33

@ImagineWords

Do they ever eat animals?
Yes - the bastards took down Shiva in The Walking Dead 😢

I’ve got a long memory, so any zombie I come across in the future should watch out.

Mypathtriedtokillme · 09/01/2021 01:34

But where are the Flies, ants and other carrion eaters?
I’m spending the zombie apocalypse in Australia.
The flies would clean them out in about 7 days, fortnight max.
Even if I have to spend the rest of my life waving flies away from drinking moisture from my eyeballs.

I did like a book series when everything mammalian over 45kg was capable of turning but anything under was a carrier of the virus.
I just kinda like the idea of a Zombie blue whale forgetting to breathe and drowning.

Sobeyondthehills · 09/01/2021 01:38

It depends on which one you want to believe in.

Personally for me, I am prepared for all of them, apart from if they might be able to talk. Then my whole, wacking their head off with a sword might waver slightly.

Although myself and DP are arguing the best place to hole up, but I am sure he will come round to my way of thinking

Glenorma · 09/01/2021 01:38

What I want to know is who is cutting the lawns? It’s months into the apocalypse but the grass is still short?

Robbybobtail · 09/01/2021 01:41

I always wonder this too. But did anyone see the First episode of the walking dead where the woman in just a Zombie-torso with arms pulling herself along? So it does happen! I couldn’t watch another episode after that!

Furries · 09/01/2021 01:41

I think I’d prefer to end up like Liv in I, Zombie - not dead, everything still intact and solving crime! Not too sure about the diet, but am sure I ate worse in my youth after a night out.

Catsup · 09/01/2021 01:46

I always assumed a 'bite' as in Shaun of the Dead would turn you, but if they 'feast' on you while alive then you can't 'turn' as you'd still need to be technically alive enough to become 'infected'? Soo, those who munched are screwed vs those who are a bit chomped on and then become zombies? Is this not the same remit as vampires? Those who are drained are dead. Those who get sucked on a bit become vampires? I couldn't get my head round 'canine zombies' in I am Legend. How does that work? Do the doggos just bite other doggos and then fuck off? And why are there zoo animals skipping around the city? Surely they'd be an easy meal? It's all highly confusing

SnuggleWuggle · 09/01/2021 01:48

If zombies eat people though, do they pop?! Surely even small bites of flesh would stack up to requiring digestion and therefore excretion

SnuggleWuggle · 09/01/2021 01:48

Poo not pop

Robbybobtail · 09/01/2021 01:54

Well, they will pop too if they don’t poo Snuggle Grin

Catsup · 09/01/2021 02:00

Plus you never see zombie cats? But I'm guessing that's because they're just quietly sitting and plotting world domination for when they evolve opposable thumbs. It's probably the cat apocalypse vs the zombie one that we really need to worry about.

MySqueeHasBeenSeverelyHarshed · 09/01/2021 02:04

Everything depends on the source of the zombification. In early zombie lore a person was raised from the dead by a medicine man and did his bidding, so it could attack and kill people but may or may not eat them, and didn't create other zombies.

In Romero films and assorted media, the source is hinted at being some sort of alien radiation. Some zombies are hungry and eating human flesh, others are just malevolent and want to kill people and use tools to do so. They don't always leave enough of a person left to turn but when they do, that person is infected.

In fast zombie revival films, the zombies appear to have some sort of rabies-like virus that make them self-destructive as well as other-people-destructive, and staying intact long enough to turn yourself depends on how many zombies are attacking you. They seem to give up and run off to find a new victim when the old one stops moving, so a lone zombie will attack you until you bleed out and then feck off to attack someone else.

In the Walking Dead and other related media, everyone is infected (airborne pathogen?) but living people are asymptomatic, it only reanimates once the person is dead, and getting bitten gives you a dose of the active virus that kills you. The virus probably repels maggots that would normally eat the flesh.

The real-life fungus Cordyceps is the inspiration for The Last of Us and a few other zombie-related media. Its spores infect insects and caterpillars and grow over the brain, influencing the affected creature to do things beneficial to the fungus and eventually killing it and feeding on its corpse.

Other misc sources are self-replicating nanomachines, demonic possession, evolutionary kill switches, brain parasites and voodoo curses.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/01/2021 02:04

In iZombie they're pretty limber, some of them regularly use the gym and they seemed quite able to have sex.

The rule there seems to be a cut or scratch or something that wouldn't be fatal to a human can turn you. Also is sexually transmitted

Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/01/2021 02:16

Zombies bite because the virus compels them to, as it's the way it spreads.

If they are rotting corpses why would they need to eat?
You also never see one getting out a water bottle or a cold beer. We can't survive without fluids.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/01/2021 02:18

Liv doesn't bite. She's my zombie hero. She eats cadaver brains

Mypathtriedtokillme · 09/01/2021 02:47

@MySqueeHasBeenSeverelyHarshed

Everything depends on the source of the zombification. In early zombie lore a person was raised from the dead by a medicine man and did his bidding, so it could attack and kill people but may or may not eat them, and didn't create other zombies.

In Romero films and assorted media, the source is hinted at being some sort of alien radiation. Some zombies are hungry and eating human flesh, others are just malevolent and want to kill people and use tools to do so. They don't always leave enough of a person left to turn but when they do, that person is infected.

In fast zombie revival films, the zombies appear to have some sort of rabies-like virus that make them self-destructive as well as other-people-destructive, and staying intact long enough to turn yourself depends on how many zombies are attacking you. They seem to give up and run off to find a new victim when the old one stops moving, so a lone zombie will attack you until you bleed out and then feck off to attack someone else.

In the Walking Dead and other related media, everyone is infected (airborne pathogen?) but living people are asymptomatic, it only reanimates once the person is dead, and getting bitten gives you a dose of the active virus that kills you. The virus probably repels maggots that would normally eat the flesh.

The real-life fungus Cordyceps is the inspiration for The Last of Us and a few other zombie-related media. Its spores infect insects and caterpillars and grow over the brain, influencing the affected creature to do things beneficial to the fungus and eventually killing it and feeding on its corpse.

Other misc sources are self-replicating nanomachines, demonic possession, evolutionary kill switches, brain parasites and voodoo curses.

Plus doesn’t Toxoplasma gondii (Parasite that causes toxoplasmosis) affect Rodents brains and makes them lose their fear of cats and actually makes them actively seek them out as it makes male rats sexually attracted to the smell of Cats.
apalledandshocked · 09/01/2021 02:50

I reckon whatever infection it is that turns people into zombies, also makes them offputting to flies and some other post death critters. They can sense something is wrong. Even if not all of them were deterred the absence of many would affect the decompostion process since it is usually something which happens in stages - the absence of flies laying eggs/maggots etc for example would make it harder for the bacteria to follow them to gain a foothold. Also maybe a zombified body is an anaerobic envrironment somehow? That would delay the decomposition greatly so they dont turn to much that quickly.
As far as how do they walk.attack with limbs missing or chunks bitten out etc etc versus why do they move so slowly/clumsily. Surely those two questions answer each other???

apalledandshocked · 09/01/2021 02:54

@Mypathtriedtokillme Apparently toxoplasmosis can also affect peoples brains, making them less risk averse statistically and even more likely to engage in sexually promiscuous activity. Some research even suggested it makes men less attractive and women more attractive (possibly because of the sexually promiscuous bit), although I dont know how reliable that research is. It could be for other reasons than cause and effect - maybe risky people are more likely to eat rare meat/less likely to wash their hands etc and therefore catch the parasite but its interesting.

NiceandCalm · 09/01/2021 03:22

I've often said that I'll feel quite protected in a zombie apocalypse as my DS is quite the expert in killing them! He goes straight for the head. If my dog turned into a zombie, we'd stand no chance though.

DBML · 09/01/2021 03:40

If a zombie bites you and you get away, you are infected. So you become a zombie.

If you cannot get away then I suppose it will depend on how much of you the zombie devours.

Now, we all know that zombies have a preference for brains ...and you don’t require a brain to go on to become a zombie.

If the zombies become frenzied and attack the body and limbs, I suppose you could become one of the unlucky - undead, who perhaps are immobile and in need in assistance. Which is why you don’t see much follow up of these zombies and their personal stories on screen.

No mortal human is going to lend their assistance to a zombie, and all of the other zombies don’t have functioning brains, so are unable to identify the zombies who need additional support.

I hope this helps.

Pumpkinpied · 09/01/2021 06:01

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