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Who is BU about self-isolating? DH or me

37 replies

L3andlosingit · 08/01/2021 08:47

DH feels the kids and I should go to my mums while he isolates in our family house after an overseas trip.

DH went overseas midDec as his mum was sick. She died on 30th. Everyone is very emotional. He will return a week after our oldest’s (primary age) birthday and 4 days before the anniversary of our son’s death near the end of this month.

We live in a small 3-bed house. One kitchen. One bathroom. Two primary age children. No spare room. We both have wooden shed offices in the garden.

I am CEV. My mum offered to put him up for 10 days isolation. I told him about this offer and he flipped out for ‘telling him how to live.’ No, he will come home and Isolate here so he can have all his stuff and be in comfort while he does so. My mum’s husband is CEV too. But the room being offered has an en-suite and the suggestion was that we move his work laptop there, she delivers meals to his door and he can Isolate in that room.

We both need to work FT to pay the bills. I am self employed. He works for a large financial company. If I don’t work I get nothing. Last lockdown we split the childcare as his employer agreed he could be part time. Then in the summer then his work said no. I worked through every bit of savings I had trying to manage the kids and work. It nearly broke me and I was recovering in October and November with very little work or income (I have lifelong health issues that cause fatigue). Btw He decided he could not teach the kids during his ‘shifts’ with them in the first lockdown. That was all put on me.

Over Christmas I was laid out on Christmas Day because of my fatigue. The dinner burnt because I was on the sofa flat out exhausted. I could not get up to sort it and with the best will in the world our kids are too small to understand or help much.

Back to today. DH will go through 3 international airports on his way back. He may be taking precautions but he’s in the US and I don’t believe he can be confident he’s safe if he’s been to shops. Which he has.

DH is furious about the idea of going to mums. Apparently I can’t plan his life and tell him what to do. I wasn’t. It was a suggestion trying to be practical with this upcoming situation. Apparently I do this all the time. From my POV he does very little family management and I’ve given up asking for help (him being away has had zero impact on the state of the house. It’s genuinely no different. The only practical change is I do every bedtime). If he feels like I organise stuff, then yes maybe I do. But that’s because he never has e.g. he flat out refuses to tidy up after the children, only his own things (and then not always).

DH feels the kids and I should go to my mums while he isolates in our family house.

The other factor today is that I also have to work. I’m self-employed. No sick pay. No guaranteed income. I have to hustle for every new project.

In anger I suggested he should isolate here with the children (so they have all their stuff) as if he won’t go I’ll have to go. At least I can earn that way.

But I know if I leave the kids he will just be a grumpy bastard to them the whole time. He also has to work so he will leave them in the house all day while he’s in the shed.

We both have to work. We can’t be in the same house while he isolates. The kids need to be considered. It’s a hard time for them too - their gran died, the oldest’s birthday before dad gets back, anniversary of other sibling’s death, lockdown and homeschooling with no spare laptops (Who has a bloody spare laptop?! But that’s another thread)

Who is being unreasonable? (And what should I do?)

OP posts:
Butchyrestingface · 08/01/2021 09:17

He is being unreasonable. If this was a one-off, I would think it was a reaction to the grief but it sounds like he is a lazy, uninvolved parent and husband anyway.

On a practical level, it makes sense for ONE person to decamp to your parents (and not leave the bloody room for the full 10 days) rather than THREE. Are there hotels/AirBnBs still opened? If he has such an objection to staying with your parents, maybe he can go there? However, it sounds like he's just going to do whatever he likes under the auspices of not being 'controlled' by you.

notinthiseconomy · 08/01/2021 09:22

I don't understand why he can tell you and the kids to leave, but if you suggest the same thing you're controlling?

WeeDangerousSpike · 08/01/2021 09:22

There's so much going on here that it's so hard to unpick. But purely on the where should he stay issue. I think it's pretty unreasonable to think he should isolate in a house with two CEV people. (also if he's grieving his mum, I doubt very much he wants to be around his in laws, I know I wouldn't want to be in forced proximity to people, even through a bedroom door, in that situation)

If you stay with your parents are they able to look after DC while you work?

drspouse · 08/01/2021 09:23

Tell him, OK, I'm not organising your life, but I'm organising this house and you aren't coming to it. You have a free offer of a spare room and meals or sort out your own accommodation. What do you need from the house? I'll leave it at my mum's, or in the shed. Let me know.

MatildaTheCat · 08/01/2021 09:27

If you go to your DPs it sounds as if you might get a bit more help with the DC and maybe have less to do around the house so although he’s BVU I would probably go.

As for the rest, well, time for some changes I’d say.

Shoxfordian · 08/01/2021 09:28

He’s being unreasonable obviously
Is he usually like this?

Womencanlift · 08/01/2021 09:28

I understand the challenges you have but he has just lost his mum. If I had just lost mine I wouldn’t want to stay with my MIL. I would want to be in my own home and have the chance to grieve privately

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 08/01/2021 09:30

I'd tell him to stay, in isolation, at an airport hotel set up for quarantine. No way would he be coming home ir going to my mums.

While he was there I'd be sorting out divorce papers because he's a stupid, selfish twat.

I'm sorry your son died xx but don't let that make you stay with this man who only cares about himself.

BornIn78 · 08/01/2021 09:31

He sounds like a useless prick when it comes to family life, but I’m sorry to say I think it would be better for you and the children, or just you, to go to your parents while he isolates at home.

It’s completely unreasonable to send him to someone else’s home to isolate when they also have a clinically vulnerable person living there.

Bluntness100 · 08/01/2021 09:37

Seems like neither of you wish to go to your mums.

To be honest, I’d go, not him, because you can spend time with them. He’s going to spend ten days couped up in one room, on his own, and that’s pure torture, where as you’d habe the run of the house. It’s also your mum not his.

unmarkedbythat · 08/01/2021 09:40

I think it's better overall for you to go to your mum's rather than him. Longer term, I'd be thinking about whether I actually want to be with him at all. He does not sound like a supportive and kind partner.

PurpleDaisies · 08/01/2021 09:41

@Womencanlift

I understand the challenges you have but he has just lost his mum. If I had just lost mine I wouldn’t want to stay with my MIL. I would want to be in my own home and have the chance to grieve privately
I agree with this.

It sounds like you’ve both got a lot going on at the moment and life is extremely stressful. I wouldn’t want to isolate at my MILs any time really but especially after I’d just los my own mum.

Ragwort · 08/01/2021 09:42

It's obviously extremely difficult for all of you but his mother has just died, to therefore have to go and live with your mother (however well he gets on with her) would be extremely difficult.

Disneyvillain · 08/01/2021 09:47

Sorry for all your losses OP. If your relationship with your parents is good, I’d take the kids and go to your mum. It will be an upheaval to get there with the two kids, but if you think they will enjoy it and if you might get some help/rest then it will be worth it.

BabyofMine · 08/01/2021 09:49

I think he sounds like very hard work in many things you’ve said - not doing his fair share of housework and child rearing etc.

But if he goes to your parents he’s going to have to stay locked in a room and go stir crazy whilst still grieving. If you go to your parents you can at least carry on as much as you can during a pandemic and staying at someone else’s house, and he get the house rather that one room. It makes no sense to me to send him to your parents and I would never ask that of my partner.

TodgerStrunk · 08/01/2021 10:00

Do you see yourself ever going back, once you're at your mum's? Your marriage sounds like it's over, to be honest. I'd send him to a hotel and see a solicitor. It's got nothing to do with his mother - it's his attitude to you even before she died.

LetsSplashMummy · 08/01/2021 10:01

I agree that he's not a very nice person, doesn't appear to communicate or compromise or bring much joy to your family life.

However, I'd go to your parents with the kids and have him isolate at home. He shouldn't be going to a different house where someone is CEV and your parents can provide the childcare and emotional support you need (especially as it sounds like a difficult anniversary for you). Time apart might make him realise how much you do and bring to the relationship, it might help you realise the opposite.

Affor · 08/01/2021 10:06

I agree he's an asshole, but surely the two CEV people should be together, leaving the potential spreader to isolate? Sending him to your mums doesn't feel fair to them.

I'm not quite sure where you being self-employed fits in - can't you work from your mums?

Godimabitch · 08/01/2021 10:11

If It was "my lovely husband is currently abroad because his mum was very illand has died. He wants me to go to my mums so he can isolate." Then I'd think, yeah he wont be feeling great right now, I wouldn't want to be somewhere I'm not comfortable while still grieving.

But it's not just that is it. He treats you like a slave, he doesn't do anything for you, no matter how ill or shit you feel. So why should you go out of your way for him. I would really resent having to go out of my way for him. But then, why should your mum or children have to suffer him either. And it's not safe for him to be at your parents.

You and kids should go to your mums, and start divorce proceedings while you're there. He's not contributing anything but more work into the relationship.

Lockdownlovernotfromliverpool · 08/01/2021 10:16

If you do go to your dps take the TV remote...
And his phone charger... He sounds awful op..

HavelockVetinari · 08/01/2021 10:16

Why are you still with this awful man? What positives does he bring to your life or the children's lives?

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 08/01/2021 10:16

@Womencanlift

I understand the challenges you have but he has just lost his mum. If I had just lost mine I wouldn’t want to stay with my MIL. I would want to be in my own home and have the chance to grieve privately
And so it's fine to make several people move out & the OP lose her income?

He was a selfish twat before his mum died, this isn't grief, this is him being a selfish twat as usual.

unbotheredbutbewildered · 08/01/2021 10:19

YABU.

His work sounds like they've already been accommodating actually - a lot of big companies haven't been. I get you're worried about your job, but he's just as entitled to be in his own house as you are and if his work have told him he cannot be part time etc. then he's probably worried he'll push it to far and end up jobless/one of the first to be cut if/when the job losses start (as everyone seems to think they will).

His mother died. I doubt he wants to spend time with your mother after losing his own. It's been less than eight days...try and show him a bit of compassion instead of throwing him out of his own house because it's easier on you.

Valkadin · 08/01/2021 10:19

As there are two ECV people in the scenario I do think they should be together. It is rubbish for you due to your fatigue obviously but I’m also imagining your Mum will help out with the dc or at least be doing dinner for everyone mostly. You haven’t mentioned ages of your dc.

I have had a child die and the anniversary is always grim if you and your Mum are close this time leading up to it may be comforting being near her. Also we all have a different response to grief, he has a new fresh layer and may need to be totally alone or in familiar surroundings.

DinosaurDigestive · 08/01/2021 10:30

He sounds very, very nasty indeed. I'm sorry you've had all of this to deal with especially while dealing with the health issues you are.

The fact you have said that nothing else was different with him being away - apart from you doing every bedtime - shows exactly how little he actually does around the house.

Christmas dinner incident is appalling.

The fact he is happy with disrupting his own children simply so he can have his things around him etc is beyond bad. But I wouldn't feel comfortable with him going to vulnerable parent's house at all as it would potentially be placing them at possible risk. I also wouldn't leave the kids there with him as like you said he would be grumpy towards them and also risk to them him potentially passing it on.

I personally couldn't stay with him at all with his whole attitude towards everything. The way he has spoken to you shows exactly how little regard he has for you and you don't deserve that at all.

I would be tempted to take the kids and go stay at my parents but as you've said there are anniversaries coming up that are very upsetting so I would be tempted to get him to stay at a quarantine place that has already been mentioned.

He won't like it at all but after all he has said about you planning his life etc so why should you do anything else for him particularly when very upsetting anniversaries are coming up. You really don't need any extra stress just now.

Why should you and your children be put out as he has decided to try and throw his weight around and be so utterly useless with things knowing your health issues and the impact it has yet he does nothing.