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Quick question as I write a long email to the school

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Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:02

This is not regarding current homeschooling as mine has been off since March.
How as a teacher do you teach children to add up to 10

So say you were teaching using the sum 6 + 2.

Not as you would teach it home as a parent but specifically how it’s taught in schools ?

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JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 19:14

I use a 30cm ruler with my kids

Wearywithteens · 06/01/2021 19:14

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EggBobbin · 06/01/2021 19:15

Just what is the point if burdening you’re school with this right now. Give them a week or two and request a phone call with her teacher, they’re going to be wading through hundreds of key workers requests.

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:15

Wow lots of assumptions the reason I didn’t google it is because I wanted a teachers answer as I’m sure there was more than one way in the curriculum to teach it.

She does know her number bonds up to 10.
The email is about her 1-1 who is by the way fully funded not by the school and the work that has been sent.

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Gazelda · 06/01/2021 19:16

Please don't send a complaint to school this week unless it's a real safeguarding issue. Surely it can wait a few days?
Staff at my daughter's school have been in tears at some of the correspondence they've received over the past few days. They are exhausted, they are trying their hardest and they are feeling pressure from all sides.

I respect that you have complaints about your child's school, but please leave it a few days so the team can regroup and regain some strength to help them get through the worrying months ahead.

LawnFever · 06/01/2021 19:17

This really isn’t the time to be writing lengthy moaning emails to teachers about how they teach kids to count to 10, haven’t you got anything else to do?

You sound quite excited about the project, maybe you should find something else to occupy your time, I’m sure teachers have other things on their minds right now...

CarlottaValdez · 06/01/2021 19:17

I’m intrigued - is the 1-1 person teaching it weirdly?

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:17

Yes the complain is essential, I have spent the last 6 months doing through the school complaint policy and haven’t moved forward.
There was a plan out in by the local authority months ago that hasn’t been followed again. I’m in my right to make sure it’s highlighted

Her 1-1s workload has not increased due to lockdown as her only job is my child.

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2021hastobebetter · 06/01/2021 19:17

Also it depends on the child - but it’s counting first then forward abs then back up to 10 then 20 and then number bonds. I once taught a child you I was told was unreachable in maths (aged 10/11 could not add up even 3+4 managed to get her to learn replacing numbers for colours and painting them different colours eg red blue etc and I taught another child by blindfold and tracing shapes and patterns. There are many children who suffer with number blindness like letter blindness ‘b and d’ confusion etc most of the time you take these students back to basic eg car on the drive - drive it off the drive - how many cars on the drive ? And once you have a zero concept you can move forward. Although some children use number lines they do need to learn them verbally and learn to count.

HappyTimeTunnelDinosaur · 06/01/2021 19:19

Honestly, there is no wrong method really! What methods are you concerned about? Songs and fingers can even work well.

HeronLanyon · 06/01/2021 19:19

I was brought up with ‘cuisinaire rods’ loved them. Beautiful.
Good luck op.

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:21

Also I’m not excited about it I’m exhausted.

Exhausted to the point I have spent all day in tears.

I understand that everyone is fighting for their child’s education right now but some of us it has been going on forever. I am not contacting her teacher etc I’m confusing her ehcp coordinator.

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danro · 06/01/2021 19:21

The bit about your 1:1’s only job being your child through this lockdown may not necessarily be true. I have 2 1:1s in my class and they are both expected to work in the hubs, make well being phone calls to all the children in the class and contribute to the home learning planning. So just something to be mindful of if it is the same case in your child’s school.

Notonthestairs · 06/01/2021 19:22

Number bonds worked with my children (one NT, one LD) but I think there are other methods.

Is it a problem with an EHCP?

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:22

And senco at school.

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AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 06/01/2021 19:23

Honestly could your lengthy complaint wait until Monday? Schools have a lot on their plate this week- they will probs only acknowledge receipt and park it until next week anyway.

For what it's worth, I teach it like this:

  1. Use 2 groups of objects- count each group, move together and count all.
  2. Then move on to pics- do the same thing. This is harder because you cannot physically move the objects.
  3. Show a written calculation and use mental strategies (knowledge of number bonds, counting on etc) to calculate answer.

That's how we do it - it's called the concrete-pictoral-abstract progression.

Hope that helps but PLEASE can you save your long email for next week? You will get a much better response once things settle down a bit.

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:23

@danro no we have a very specific plan.
The school don’t fund it for that reason the LA do it’s a school and home package.

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AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 06/01/2021 19:24

Second white rose maths - they have lots of practical activities that progress in a sequence through the week- it's cutting edge maths pedagogy and brilliant.

lemonsandlimes123 · 06/01/2021 19:24

It really really can wait. It really isn’t urgent unless there is a safeguarding aspect to number bonds that I am not aware of

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:25

Thank you I have my answer, It’s not an email based on this by the way it’s something I needed as proof that the decision they made was not correct. It’s not about the actual number bonds.
She is doing fine in maths actually really well :)

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OwlWearingGlasses · 06/01/2021 19:25

There is not one set way.
Rhyming songs.
Numicon
Pictures
Physical objects
Repetition
Moving objects on whiteboards
Counting pictures of things

Someonepassthegin1991 · 06/01/2021 19:25

I will have a look at the programmes suggested for home learning though :)

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AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 06/01/2021 19:27

Good luck with it- it really is so hard. Hope that you get the response you need. Flowers

lcdododo · 06/01/2021 19:28

Doesn't matter how it taught

Cannot in any way see how this can relate to a complaint

I dread to think what your email says when teachers inboxes and already full

twistedsistersocks · 06/01/2021 19:29

@Someonepassthegin1991

Yes the complain is essential, I have spent the last 6 months doing through the school complaint policy and haven’t moved forward. There was a plan out in by the local authority months ago that hasn’t been followed again. I’m in my right to make sure it’s highlighted

Her 1-1s workload has not increased due to lockdown as her only job is my child.

Who is funding the 1:1?

How do you know that the plan has not been followed?