To think my employer has got my holiday wrong?

[Randomname85]

I’ll try to keep this brief. I work 2.5 days spread over 5 days (so 5 half days per week). Full time employees are entitled to 30 days holiday, I am therefore entitled to 15. I assumed then if I was to book a ‘day off’ (my working day) I would be booking a half day off. For a better example:

A full time employee with 30 days holiday wants to take 2 weeks off they use 10 days leaving them 20 days , you would take 5 days from your 15 leaving you with 10

However my employer is saying I would have to book FULL days off - so I’d need to book 10 days for those 2 weeks and not 5! I’ve never known this to be the case anywhere I’ve ever worked before but I can’t find solid proof anywhere online.

Help?!

If your hours differ each day then it should be done in hours. If you do the same number of hours each day over 5 days then it can be done in days

This is exactly why I changed our holiday calculations to hours rather than days, it was causing too much confusion especially as we had several part time workers all on different hours and patterns.

I would go back to payroll and ask to see their calculations and then convert you allowance to hours, and the same with their calculations, and send it back.

Ah ok. This certainly doesn't make it as black and white as it originally seemed, but nonetheless the 'booking 10 full days' is still incorrect.

I agree with the other posters that it should be in hours as your daily hours are irregular.

In this case it could also be presented at 2 'weeks' holiday instead of 10 days as your 'week' is 2.5 days this would therefore equate to '5 days' and it might help them see that booking 10 days holiday makes absolutely no sense!

However you will no doubt encounter problems when you want to book just 1 day.

Yes the important thing is can you book half days oh your holiday system?

If you can then 15 days is fine. You would use up 2 1/2 to book a whole week off.

Or just half a day if you say work every day mornings only and wanted a morning off

(I work 1 day a week, spread over 2 half days do I get 7 days off a year.
But in practice I move my days of work around if I just need to do something on one of my sessions and don't use up holiday.

I work 5 mornings a week and am on an annual salary. Everyone gets 28 days holiday. Mine is also 28.

I get 28 mornings. So straightforward.

Nobody fannies around with converting it and doing pro-rata.

Even though it might not be as black and white surely the bottom line is I wouldn’t book 5 whole days for a week off? If I don’t work (and am not paid for) 2.5 days of that week?

@Randomname85

Even though it might not be as black and white surely the bottom line is I wouldn’t book 5 whole days for a week off? If I don’t work (and am not paid for) 2.5 days of that week?

The 'not as black and white' is related to a response to them. As in 'I work 4 hours a day' etc.

That's correct. It shouldn't be 5 days it should only equate to 2.5.

Sorry, I forgot we were on a forum for a minute and not just having a conversation

I've started to write you something but it's about to be bath time in this house.

As a part timer your holiday is taken on hours, not days. You need to work out your annual holiday entitlement in hours, then take the number of hours required to cover two weeks.

It is truly so kind of you I don’t know how to thank you 🙏🏻

You work the same hours each day so therefore get 30 of your short days.

The fact that your short days are equal to half of someone else's long days is neither here nor there.

I am a finance director and all the HR staff I have ever worked with have been hopeless at basic maths and this type of thing.

Apologies to any HR people on MN who can do this stuff.

I think the easiest way is to say you should get 30 units of holiday, ie 1 unit equals one working day off, regardless of the normal hours worked.

I work in HR and I only pro-rata holiday for part-time workers if they work 4 days or less, regardless of the hours they work.

Yeah hours is the way to go here

If a full timer who works a 37.5 hour week gets 30days - then they get 225 hours holiday (30 days x 7.5hours a day)

If you work 22 hours a week - then you get 17.5 days holiday a year which is 131 hours holiday?

I think ??

I haven’t read the full thread but somewhere like the RBS mentor website will have an annual leave calculator which will be able to help you with that.