AIBU to think they should vaccinate teachers asap?

[Lalliella]

If they want schools to reopen as soon as possible, and childcare provided so people can work, wouldn’t it make sense to vaccinate teachers as a matter of priority?

I'm in support of all the teachers getting vaccinated etc but what about the early years workers who have to still work during all this? A very close friend caught covid in her local nursery not long before Christmas making the rest of her family ill.

Schools aren't closed to protect teachers though, they are closed to stop kids spreading it and taking it home infecting multiple families. If it was about teachers they would be higher up the list of vaccinations. Them being vaccinated wont stop the spread

Sorry but if people were actually healthy and not overweight/ obese they would worry less. My teacher friend is white and 38 and absolutely should expect nothing more than being uncomfortable for a couple of weeks instead she is significantly overweight and therefore very worried because if the increase in risk to her.

This virus should be a wake up call to all of us about the importance of looking after ourselves

Actually I think I’ll amend that to maybe school kids should be vaccinated too. After all, they seem to be the ones spreading it the most.

Just stop posting your actually embarrassing yourself.

The vaccine hasn’t been tested on children, so school children are unable to be vaccinated.

School staff should be a priority as so many frontline workers need schools to be open.

They'd still find a reason to argue they shouldn't open the schools like the vaccine not actually preventing you from catching just making the symptoms less severe 🤷‍♀️

YABU, and clueless.

We are vaccinating in a priority order for specific reasons. It’s not just about protecting one elderly person when they have the vaccine, it’s about keeping that person out of hospital and thus out of a bed which may be needed by another person.

If you vaccinate the teachers you are still going to end up with school closures due to pupil infections, and those children are still going to take home the virus and spread it to parents, and grandparents, who won’t have been vaccinated because the teachers were prioritised with no valid reason for doing so.

Of course teachers should be fairly high priority but the elderly, the clinically extremely vulnerable, the clinically vulnerable and front line health and care workers should take greater priority as they are most likely to contract the virus and die from it.

Who gets bumped down the list though
See those people who he just told her to re shield ? They are not even in the top 4 categories he was talking about being by mid February neither are carers for those people

School staff should be a priority as so many frontline workers need schools to be open.

Schools are open to front line children,

do posters not think before posting?

If you vaccinate teachers, you have to vaccinate other key workers don’t you? Why would they get priority over supermarket workers, police officers, dentists etc etc?

Schools haven’t been closed due to teachers.

Schools have been closed because children are superspreaders.

People are complaining that their child can’t visit their grandparent but can go and sit in a class with 30 other children, then the schools close and those same people are complaining that the teachers should be vaccinated so the schools can reopen and those children who can’t visit granny can go and sit back in a class with 30 children....

@Bringonspring

Sorry but if people were actually healthy and not overweight/ obese they would worry less. My teacher friend is white and 38 and absolutely should expect nothing more than being uncomfortable for a couple of weeks instead she is significantly overweight and therefore very worried because if the increase in risk to her.

This virus should be a wake up call to all of us about the importance of looking after ourselves

We have a firefighter and coastguard friend who is early 40s and fighting fit, no underlying health conditions.

Except he is now on a ventilator in hospital and things are not looking good.

Statistics give a general picture but don't tell the individual tales Yes, young, fit, white, healthy BMI females SHOULD be safer on balance of probability, but no guarantees.

People can do things to reduce chances of getting very badly ill but sadly you can be perfect on paper and still hit hard.

@Bringonspring

Sorry but if people were actually healthy and not overweight/ obese they would worry less. My teacher friend is white and 38 and absolutely should expect nothing more than being uncomfortable for a couple of weeks instead she is significantly overweight and therefore very worried because if the increase in risk to her.

This virus should be a wake up call to all of us about the importance of looking after ourselves

That’s not necessarily the case though, my colleague’s wife is 30 and otherwise healthy, she has long Covid, has been very seriously ill and now can’t work.

@HaudYerWheeshtBawbag

Actually I think I’ll amend that to maybe school kids should be vaccinated too. After all, they seem to be the ones spreading it the most.

Just stop posting your actually embarrassing yourself.

The vaccine hasn’t been tested on children, so school children are unable to be vaccinated.

You’re wrong, I’m not embarrassed at all

That's what Scotland is going to do, announced today

But there are always individual tales.

The fact is that the majority of people who end up in hospital or dying are still in the over 80 and clinically vulnerable categories.

Many of the people who were presumed fit and healthy have had underlying health conditions which they were unaware of.

I was “fit and healthy” when I caught the flu and ended up on life support four years ago. Turned out I had an underlying heart condition I never knew about. Now I’m classed as vulnerable, but if I hadn’t already got sick four years ago I would have been one of those saying that I was less concerned because I didn’t have an underlying health condition.

There are 30 year olds who may contract long COVID, but just because you know one doesn’t mean all under 30’s should be vaccinated, as the ones who do end up with long covid are in the minority when set against the elderly and the vulnerable.

I think they should. Probably over and above the care home and over 70's.

@Biscusting

How many teachers have died or been hospitalised compared with NHS frontline, care home staff and residents?

Not being a dick, but I think they’re vaccinating in the right order.

Yeah, sorry OP, I agree with this PP

It's not ALL nhs staff and social care workers being vaccinated only those that so front line hands-on care delivery (who are expected to work with Covid+ patients as well as those without).

I think it's in the right order they analysed the stats . Any CEV teachers or supermarket staff or other key workers were already instructed from 26/12:2020 in Tier 4 areas to stay home and not attend work and now it's national advice And they will be fourth on list after the age and exposure vulnerable groups. You can send home pupils with symptoms you can't refuse to care for or test Covid+ patients or residents

School children can pass it between them, hence lockdown3 closure of schools

@2bazookas

That's what Scotland is going to do, announced today

Yup

“That is why we are considering whether and to what extent - consistent with our overall duty to vaccinate the most vulnerable first in line with JCVI recommendations - we can achieve vaccination of school and childcare staff as a priority. Many teachers will of course be vaccinated over coming weeks as part of the JCVI priority list.”

@2bazookas

That's what Scotland is going to do, announced today

Ah well Boris usually copies what Nicola does, so we’ll see...

I wish, I do not want to be stuck at home. 😢

What Boris says isn't gospel. Read this

][https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-30-december-2020/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination-30-december-2020#fn:3 JVIC]]

I totally agree! Teachers, along with all key workers who keep society running deserve to be prioritised for vaccination

Do you really want to stay in lockdown for as long as possible? If so vaccinate teachers under 50.

To end lockdown as soon as possible the groups who are dying and requiring hospitalisation need to be vaccinated first. If those over 50, who are CEV or come into contact with these groups need to be vaccinated first.

Then you vaccinate teachers and other vital workers e.g. retail.