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primary schools

39 replies

sausageathlete · 01/01/2021 19:54

Before Monday I think they will have closed all primary schools

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GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 01/01/2021 19:55

What’s your AIBU? Are there not enough threads on this already?

Lockheart · 01/01/2021 19:56

Ok then?

doctorhamster · 01/01/2021 19:58

I expect we'll find out on Sunday evening

1Morewineplease · 01/01/2021 19:58

Have you not checked on school closures in your area?

LongBlobson · 01/01/2021 20:01

I think they'll dither slightly longer, but by the end of next week I reckon all primaries in tier 4 closed.

22Giraffes · 01/01/2021 20:03

All London primaries will now not be opening at the start of term, not just the original boroughs published.

Whattheactual20201 · 01/01/2021 20:05

There was always going to be upheaval as some of the London boroughs has less cases than some areas that remained open.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 01/01/2021 20:06

YANBU to think whatever you want. IANBU to think you're wrong.

TillysMum02 · 01/01/2021 20:06

yanbu i agree....nurseries as well

Plonque · 01/01/2021 20:08

@doctorhamster

I expect we'll find out on Sunday evening

What good is that to working parents Angry

Butteredtoast55 · 01/01/2021 20:14

This is a decision that could have been made a week ago to allow parents time to plan. Four weeks of school being open for key workers and vulnerable children and possibly the most high-need year groups. Remote learning for others. It's absolutely NOT ideal, especially for working parents, but if we don't, things are going to gallop out of control and we will be back to square one. This government never, ever learns.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 01/01/2021 20:18

@sausageathlete

Before Monday I think they will have closed all primary schools
I hope so. Not just until the 18th either but until its under control.
edwinbear · 01/01/2021 20:51

If they've decided to close all London primary schools, as they just have, then yes, the logical thing to do is shut all primaries. It will be announced, via Twitter, at 00:01 Monday morning. Your DC will still be allowed to play football at the weekends with the DC from all the other the local schools, (as U18's outdoor sport is permitted), you will still be allowed to go to M&S and you can meet up with one of your friends in the park for a run, but your DC will be denied an education

x2boys · 01/01/2021 20:54

Well I hope not we are in tier four ,but whilst our numbers are rising they are not as high as they were in September and October we are in Bolton so at one point we had the highest rates in the UK

ChristmasinJune · 01/01/2021 21:00

Can't see our schools closing just yet, we're still in Tier 3 and they're saying hospitals aren't in crisis..... yet. Our numbers are rising steadily so I'll give the primary schools a week or possibly two, then they'll close until half term. That's my mystic Meg prediction!!

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 01/01/2021 23:04

but your DC will be denied an education

Schools will teach or set work remotely so as long as parents ensure their children engage then there’s no denial of education.

Emmelina · 01/01/2021 23:33

Schools are better set up for remote learning than we were at the beginning of the first lockdown. All local schools here got the children set up in Teams and Zoom etc. anticipating bubble closures or further lockdowns, and reached out to all parents to let schools know if technology to access online materials was not available. It’s a pain in the neck for parents, I agree. But if schools do stay open so soon after Christmas and new year mingling,bubbles will close anyway. There is no doubt. Surely better to plan a mass closure.

Nomnomarrgh · 01/01/2021 23:37

Yep, its definitely parents fault if they can’t afford internet access and their children miss out on an education, icecream

ChristmasinJune · 01/01/2021 23:59

@Nomnomarrgh

Yep, its definitely parents fault if they can’t afford internet access and their children miss out on an education, icecream
That's not what was posted at all though? If you don't have a device or the WiFi to access remote learning you then let your school know that. They can arrange regular paper packs for you to complete instead. It's not ideal, nobody's pretending it it. School's are hugely sympathetic towards parents who struggle to support remote learning, but talk to them and let them help.
KeyboardWorriers · 02/01/2021 00:03

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

but your DC will be denied an education

Schools will teach or set work remotely so as long as parents ensure their children engage then there’s no denial of education.

Bollocks. So far when schools have been shut my children have had zero teaching (from their school - I did hire a tutor) and a risible number of undifferentiated worksheets from twinkl once a week.
Connelloni · 02/01/2021 00:09

Yep it’s complete nonsense to say remote learning will be provided at anything approaching the in person learning experience. My son got nothing whatsoever in first lockdown barring some shit online twinkl worksheets - we don’t have a printer - and my 16 yo sister had nothing at all, not one remote lesson. Lucky her GCSEs were cancelled really as they hadn’t even got close to completing the course.

I think schools will close but I wish they wouldn’t.

KeyboardWorriers · 02/01/2021 00:13

I don't think schools should stay open but I think they should all be given a proper directive to provide a genuinely good remote education. I had bright engaged children who loved learning and learn for pleasure in their own time too. They lost a lot of respect for their teachers when they saw the quality of what was provided when the "curriculum was suspended" and their teachers just all dicked about baking/gardening/ hot housing their own children and then sending chatting emails about it. .
(I am not saying all teachers did this, but that was what the teachers in their school did)

I want schools to close but alongside a concerted effort to make sure children can still access education.

Iamnotthe1 · 02/01/2021 00:40

@KeyboardWorriers

I don't think schools should stay open but I think they should all be given a proper directive to provide a genuinely good remote education. I had bright engaged children who loved learning and learn for pleasure in their own time too. They lost a lot of respect for their teachers when they saw the quality of what was provided when the "curriculum was suspended" and their teachers just all dicked about baking/gardening/ hot housing their own children and then sending chatting emails about it. . (I am not saying all teachers did this, but that was what the teachers in their school did)

I want schools to close but alongside a concerted effort to make sure children can still access education.

That's exactly what has happened.

During the first lockdown, the Government chose to suspend the curriculum and change the status of schools from educational settings to childcare. In doing both of those things, they removed any legal responsibility for educating children from schools.

Any school doing more than nothing was doing more than the Government had instructed them to do or what they were obliged to do. Most schools did that, some very successfully but there were others that either prioritised other things. In some cases, that was right like one of my local schools who recognised that 84% of their pupils could not get online and so they spent the entire time preparing and delivering food, books, clothes etc. to the highly disadvantaged families. In others, like it sounds in the case of your child's school, it didn't work.

If schools close now, the curriculum won't be suspended and that legal responsibility will remain. In fact, it's been further reinforced with additional legislation. It would be a lot easier, however, if the Government had delivered on their promise to fund laptops and internet access rather than just repeating that promise again and again as if it had happened.

RememberSelfCompassion · 02/01/2021 00:43

I think they ought to. But I think what they'll do is send them back then U turn agter a week maybe.

When if for a change they had planned in advance and told parents and teachers then it could be much smoother...

MrJinxyCat · 02/01/2021 00:56

It’s all well and good saying our hospitals aren’t overwhelmed in our area. Patients will be shipped all over the country pretty soon to fill any empty beds.

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