Page 35 | Hilaria Baldwin pretended to be Spanish wtf?!

Ballstothis148 · 2020-12-28T00:24:04+00:00

This is the least important and most weird story of 2020.... this woman comes up on my Instagram a lot as a suggested page. Tbh I don’t find her interesting but know she’s Spanish and is into health, having babies with Alec Baldwin and that’s pretty much it. She speaks with a Spanish accent, on her IG page she calls her children “Baldwinitos” [hmm] I do remember an article saying when she speaks Spanish to her kids people confuse her for a nanny so I thought an interesting take on a European mum in the States. Except it’s all a lie. She’s not remotely Spanish. Her wealthy Boston parents (no Spanish ancestry) now have a holiday home there. What is wrong with people?! I include me for being too interested :) why pretend to be Spanish? In one interview she even pretended she didn’t know the word for cucumber as her English isn’t that good [confused] Oh and she’s not even called Hilaria, she’s called Hilary. This year I swear... what an odd story!! I did know a girl who went very French after a romance there one year... maybe it’s a thing!

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 01:24

Have to say im not actually bothered if people want a culturally themed wedding, but this is exactly what was going on there.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:28

@user1471565182

Have to say im not actually bothered if people want a culturally themed wedding, but this is exactly what was going on there.

I have friends who have done the Irish or Scottish themed wedding but they have all been either 1/8th or a 1/16 Scottish or Irish so totally legit.

FunkBus · 30/12/2020 01:30

"I have friends who have done the Irish or Scottish themed wedding but they have all been either 1/8th or a 1/16 Scottish or Irish so totally legit."

I actually find that so silly. A Scottish 'themed' wedding? Scotland isn't a theme and being 1/8 Scottish is totally meaningless.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:32

I don't think I've ever met anyone who has claimed to be member of an ethnic group where they haven't had at least 2% or more of that ethnicity, not have I met anyone who has faked their nationality.

I am sure it happens but maybe it more of a celebrity or Instagrammer type thing? Which is probably why most of us don't really understand why

I think celebs do all kind of weird things for the lols, I think celebrity land is different to real people land

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 01:33

yeah I just find that annoying. Im not talking about having some vague ridiculous ancestor connection, I mean like if you decided 'I like Italy, lets get married in Italy and have lots of italian food and music' im fine with that. Its when Americans start saying 'oh im so fiery and my dad used to beat shit out of us and always be drunk its our irish blood' (I see this regularly) and they base their identity around it to the point of having a irish/scottish wedding then I hate that shit. Its obnoxious and they always claim to be related to WIlliam Wallace or Brian Boru. ALWAYS.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:34

@FunkBus

"I have friends who have done the Irish or Scottish themed wedding but they have all been either 1/8th or a 1/16 Scottish or Irish so totally legit."

I actually find that so silly. A Scottish 'themed' wedding? Scotland isn't a theme and being 1/8 Scottish is totally meaningless.

Well being any kind of Scottish is probably meaningless unless you born and bred there! Being half or a quarter is also meaningless unless you have a connectio n with that culture.

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 01:35

Id laugh at anybody claiming to be 1/16th scottish to be honest. I keep quiet about my 1/2 for fear of being an arse about it.

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 01:36

My theory anyway is shes done this for her yoga business, and basically said to her family yes im exagerating it, its good for business having this name. Then the lie has just built and built.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:38

@user1471565182

yeah I just find that annoying. Im not talking about having some vague ridiculous ancestor connection, I mean like if you decided 'I like Italy, lets get married in Italy and have lots of italian food and music' im fine with that. Its when Americans start saying 'oh im so fiery and my dad used to beat shit out of us and always be drunk its our irish blood' (I see this regularly) and they base their identity around it to the point of having a irish/scottish wedding then I hate that shit. Its obnoxious and they always claim to be related to WIlliam Wallace or Brian Boru. ALWAYS.

Ah, I see. yeah I can understand why them using that stereotype is annoying. I can say as an abuse survivor though, you can end up trying to think of anything to justify an abusive parent, so using that particular stereotype could be an attempt at that.

I have to say though there are sadly a lot of negative Irish stereotypes, and yet I doubt Spanish get stereotyped in such a negative way in the UK. Exotic, fiery, etc not negative compared to the dreadful things people say about the Irish. Not to mention the Irish were once treated horrendously by the white British and probably still are

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 01:42

Yeah I know thats a big part of the reason it pisses of the Irish probably more than most. The alcoholic/violent/countrybumpkin cliches.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:46

@user1471565182

Id laugh at anybody claiming to be 1/16th scottish to be honest. I keep quiet about my 1/2 for fear of being an arse about it.

I think people can identify ethnically how they want to as long as they being honest and not harming anyone. Being an arse is just that. Not harmful. I wouldn't bat two eyelids about it. Like my "Jewish"friend. If she were claiming to be culturally Jewish and to know how it is to have lived as a Jew and faced anti semitism, yes I can see how that would be offensive but she only claims the bloodline which doesn't have any implications on anything, either for good or bad.

Sadly we live in a society that sees race as something important and either something that gives you superiority (if you white) or oppression points/an excuse/poor me complex etc and none of that is helpful.

I choose to see a person's race as a tiny part of them, may have some influence in to how they see things but there are many other influences

I remember all that fuss about Charlotte church all those years ago how she can sing because she Welsh and am like "so? " years later she doesn't sing anymore... These celebs are a flash in the pan

NotPrude · 30/12/2020 01:47

It’s not necessary the case that being Spanish in America is different to being Hispanic. The Spanish language as a whole is associated with immigrants in the US. The whole “speak English” saga is often aimed at people who speak Spanish.

It may be that once you say you’re Spanish you are given a new level of respect but it is still generally associated with South America. Just look at Antonio Banderas’ comments about being called Hispanic when he’s Spanish.

Hilaria has also claimed she’s suffered from racial prejudice as a result of being Spanish. So again, that is her capitalising on the experiences of minorities to advance her career, when she never ever faced such prejudices on account of being a white middle class woman.

It’s also important to note there is no evidence that she has a trace of Spanish blood in her. Her family history is well documented and it goes back generations in the US. So her roots are most likely European, but more probably German, Irish, etc. So this is not the case of someone being 1/50th Spanish and using that to justify their interest in Spanish culture. This is someone who is simply not Spanish that has gone to great lengths to claim she is.

FunkBus · 30/12/2020 01:52

"Well being any kind of Scottish is probably meaningless unless you born and bred there! Being half or a quarter is also meaningless unless you have a connectio n with that culture."

Exactly. I just don't even understand what a Scottish "themed" wedding is. Everyone wears tartan or some shit? What has that to do with being Scottish?

NotPrude · 30/12/2020 01:53

Maybe if she does a DNA testing kit she’ll find out she is a tiny bit Mediterranean, but certainly not enough to justify claiming she’s Spanish. My brother did one of those kits and it turned out we’re 2% Congolese or something like that. It would be absurd for me to suddenly turn around and claim I’m from Congo and incorporating Congolese culture into my every day life!

NotPrude · 30/12/2020 01:55

@CarefreeandInnocent And I will not be showing your comments about not being Scottish unless you’re born there to my Scottish husband! I’m pregnant with our first child and he’s (jokingly) desperate for the child to be born in Scotland. Definitely not going to fuel that anymore!

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:57

@FunkBus

"Well being any kind of Scottish is probably meaningless unless you born and bred there! Being half or a quarter is also meaningless unless you have a connectio n with that culture."

Exactly. I just don't even understand what a Scottish "themed" wedding is. Everyone wears tartan or some shit? What has that to do with being Scottish?

I think it means tartan kilts for the men and having a ceilidh. At least that's how it seemed to be.

I suppose it just an old tradition. But many other nationalities have old traditions at their weddings that have nothing to do with how their people live now.

The father giving the bride away for example....do women these days get married straight from their fathers home? very few! Most go to university have a job before marriage. Not just western culture either . Not unless living very rurally.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 01:58

[quote NotPrude]@CarefreeandInnocent And I will not be showing your comments about not being Scottish unless you’re born there to my Scottish husband! I’m pregnant with our first child and he’s (jokingly) desperate for the child to be born in Scotland. Definitely not going to fuel that anymore! [/quote]
Lol!

Regarding the Congolese thing, it would be a bit eccentric to do that. Harmless but a bit daft!

FunkBus · 30/12/2020 01:59

"I think it means tartan kilts for the men and having a ceilidh. At least that's how it seemed to be.

I suppose it just an old tradition. But many other nationalities have old traditions at their weddings that have nothing to do with how their people live now."

But Scottish people would do that at a wedding (though no one would say "I had a ceilidh at my wedding, that sounds weird) but it's so odd when people who are part Scottish turn around and do it and claim it's Scottish to "honour their heritage" or something.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 02:01

@NotPrude

Maybe if she does a DNA testing kit she’ll find out she is a tiny bit Mediterranean, but certainly not enough to justify claiming she’s Spanish. My brother did one of those kits and it turned out we’re 2% Congolese or something like that. It would be absurd for me to suddenly turn around and claim I’m from Congo and incorporating Congolese culture into my every day life!

Actually if I turned out to be 2% Congolese is probably say am ethnically a little mixed, like most people are, but wouldn't claim it as my cultural background. But I probably would try learning something about the culture just from interest because I like learning about other cultures and I eat and cook food from all over and wear different ethnic jewellery, hairstyles, clothes etc. I like cultural sharing. I don't make money from it so no appropriation.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 02:02

@FunkBus

"I think it means tartan kilts for the men and having a ceilidh. At least that's how it seemed to be.

I suppose it just an old tradition. But many other nationalities have old traditions at their weddings that have nothing to do with how their people live now."

But Scottish people would do that at a wedding (though no one would say "I had a ceilidh at my wedding, that sounds weird) but it's so odd when people who are part Scottish turn around and do it and claim it's Scottish to "honour their heritage" or something.

yeah it's a quirky odd thing to do I guess. I find themes weddings a bit tacky myself but that's me

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 02:05

The term mixed race covers all of us I think! (Unless you have one white parent and one black or Asian parent, I can see then why people would actually tick that on a form. No point otherwise but not really offensive per se)

NotPrude · 30/12/2020 02:07

@CarefreeandInnocent And that’s fine. Cultural appreciation is fine. And if HB simply appreciated Spanish culture without pretending she’s Spanish, I’m sure no one would bat an eyelid. But she’s taken it to a whole new level by pretending to be Spanish. She made money from it by building her brand as being a Spanish lady in America.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 02:11

[quote NotPrude]@CarefreeandInnocent And that’s fine. Cultural appreciation is fine. And if HB simply appreciated Spanish culture without pretending she’s Spanish, I’m sure no one would bat an eyelid. But she’s taken it to a whole new level by pretending to be Spanish. She made money from it by building her brand as being a Spanish lady in America.[/quote]
Yes, I can see that would be an issue.

I think I'd call it culture fraud or something. Nationality fraud.

CarefreeandInnocent · 30/12/2020 02:11

Or I would call it crazy

user1471565182 · 30/12/2020 02:18

Genuinely a company called Tartan Weddings.