Hilaria Baldwin pretended to be Spanish wtf?!

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This is the least important and most weird story of 2020.... this woman comes up on my Instagram a lot as a suggested page. Tbh I don’t find her interesting but know she’s Spanish and is into health, having babies with Alec Baldwin and that’s pretty much it. She speaks with a Spanish accent, on her IG page she calls her children “Baldwinitos” I do remember an article saying when she speaks Spanish to her kids people confuse her for a nanny so I thought an interesting take on a European mum in the States.

Except it’s all a lie. She’s not remotely Spanish. Her wealthy Boston parents (no Spanish ancestry) now have a holiday home there.

What is wrong with people?! I include me for being too interested :) why pretend to be Spanish? In one interview she even pretended she didn’t know the word for cucumber as her English isn’t that good

Oh and she’s not even called Hilaria, she’s called Hilary. This year I swear... what an odd story!! I did know a girl who went very French after a romance there one year... maybe it’s a thing!

GreenlandTheMovie I think between Hilaria “Baldwinito” Baldwin and Wiki, the latter is a more reliable source

I was wondering that too. She must have introduced him to her friends. Did she have to say 'just play along'

It is like Miranda!

I don't give a fuck what wiki says, Hilaria speaks Castilian as opposed to latin spanish. She can't fake it. No one can that accent.

*Wiki often glosses over info or gives an inaccurate impression by omitting facts. There is a reason it cannot be cited as a source by students at University.

(I thought everyone knew this).*

Thanks for the patronising little sign off, but we're not talking about material for a PhD thesis here. We're talking about a brief bio of a yoga teacher. Former schoolmates of Hilary Thomas have spoken out, and I doubt they're lying.

What do you consider to be 100% accurate peer-reviewed sources about the educaiton of a yoga teacher? And again, which part of the Wiki entry do you consider to be inaccurate?

[quote NotPrude]@LittleTiger007 That’s not exactly reliable. She says she was raised in Spain. She wasn’t. She went on holiday in Spain.

I went to Turkey in my summer holidays when I was kid. I had some family who lived there (also not Turkish), and we would sometimes spend the entire 6 week holiday there. That doesn’t mean I can claim I’m Turkish![/quote]
What with visiting Turkey so much, I assume you have named your children Turkish names, yes?

Sorry wrong thread!

@Alondra yes she speaks Castilian but that doesn't mean she's Spanish. It's also not a perfect accent if you listen closely, and definitely not the accent someone raised in the Balearics would have.

I have a pretty perfect British accent but I'm not British, nor was I raised in the UK.

Some people, including Hilaria Baldwin, are just very good at languages and accents. If her dad studied Spanish and she was exposed to the language and watched made-in-Spain TV from a young age, it's perfectly possible to achieve that level of fluidity and an almost-perfect accent.

@IcedPurple

*Wiki often glosses over info or gives an inaccurate impression by omitting facts. There is a reason it cannot be cited as a source by students at University.

(I thought everyone knew this).*

Thanks for the patronising little sign off, but we're not talking about material for a PhD thesis here. We're talking about a brief bio of a yoga teacher. Former schoolmates of Hilary Thomas have spoken out, and I doubt they're lying.

What do you consider to be 100% accurate peer-reviewed sources about the educaiton of a yoga teacher? And again, which part of the Wiki entry do you consider to be inaccurate?

Are you a Spaniard? Can you pick up the differences in the language between a Mexican, an Argentinian, a Colombian, an Uruguayan, a Catalan, a Galician, a Basque, a Castilian or an Andalucian?

[quote EileenGC]@Alondra yes she speaks Castilian but that doesn't mean she's Spanish. It's also not a perfect accent if you listen closely, and definitely not the accent someone raised in the Balearics would have.

I have a pretty perfect British accent but I'm not British, nor was I raised in the UK.

Some people, including Hilaria Baldwin, are just very good at languages and accents. If her dad studied Spanish and she was exposed to the language and watched made-in-Spain TV from a young age, it's perfectly possible to achieve that level of fluidity and an almost-perfect accent. [/quote]
Im not saying she is Spanish. I'm saying her accents gives a clue why she's identifying her as Spanish.

@zigaziga Haha exactly! Turkish names, and an accent too! Oh and I forget simple words in English!

Are you a Spaniard? Can you pick up the differences in the language between a Mexican, an Argentinian, a Colombian, an Uruguayan, a Catalan, a Galician, a Basque, a Castilian or an Andalucian?

No, I'm not Spanish.

However, I really love Japanese culture, especially the films of Kurosawa, and am seriously thinking identifying as Japanese.

What is the point of your question?

@Alondra why are you defending her so much? Her own cousins have said she only ever holidayed in Spain and never lived there...

It is so possible for someone to have a perfect accent...

[quote SVRT19674]@Bejjazzled Hey, this word is also Spanish. I called my gran abuela, my best friend calls hers yaya. We also have yayo for grandfather, and los yayos for grandparents. Not Greek at all. Even though Greeks call theirs yiayiá.[/quote]
Fair enough. Thanks...but my point stands as she’s a wee woman from Glasgow and not Spain or Greece

@IcedPurple

*Wiki often glosses over info or gives an inaccurate impression by omitting facts. There is a reason it cannot be cited as a source by students at University.

(I thought everyone knew this).*

Thanks for the patronising little sign off, but we're not talking about material for a PhD thesis here. We're talking about a brief bio of a yoga teacher. Former schoolmates of Hilary Thomas have spoken out, and I doubt they're lying.

What do you consider to be 100% accurate peer-reviewed sources about the educaiton of a yoga teacher? And again, which part of the Wiki entry do you consider to be inaccurate?

I wouldn't expect Wiki to be detailed or accurate enough to prove either way whether someone had spent time being educated abroad or not, or if they had lived there for a certain time.

It's not that accurate or detailed.

I really am under no obligation to provide you with a working knowledge of Harvard referencing or Oscola. If it bothers you that much - Google them. I expect my students on first year at university to have had it explained to them by their teachers at school why they can't use Wikipedia as a source.

Honestly, the fact someone can speak the language perfectly proves nothing. I can speak three at the same level and change accents between them in one sentence if I want to and most native people don't realise I'm not a native until I introduce myself and my name makes it obvious. This isn't bragging, it's a fact of life that some people are linguistically talented, perhaps more than others. It has no bearing on determining their nationality.

@IcedPurple

Are you a Spaniard? Can you pick up the differences in the language between a Mexican, an Argentinian, a Colombian, an Uruguayan, a Catalan, a Galician, a Basque, a Castilian or an Andalucian?

No, I'm not Spanish.

However, I really love Japanese culture, especially the films of Kurosawa, and am seriously thinking identifying as Japanese.

What is the point of your question?

That you are talking shit about an issue you have no idea. You are not Spanish and don't speak Spanish but apparently you are an expert identifying the culture of a woman who do speak perfect Castilian.

I really am under no obligation to provide you with a working knowledge of Harvard referencing or Oscola. If it bothers you that much - Google them. I expect my students on first year at university to have had it explained to them by their teachers at school why they can't use Wikipedia as a source

If you're this patronising to your students, I'm glad I'm not one of them. Especially as you seem unaware that few people will be writing peer-reviewed disserations on the education of Hilary Thomas.

3rd time Prof: Which part of the Wiki bio do you believe to be inaccurate? Are you saying that people who claimed to go to school with Hilary (in Boston) are fibbing?

Wasn't it Melania Trump who claimed a University degree she didn't have? That was quietly removed from her website too.

That you are talking shit about an issue you have no idea. You are not Spanish and don't speak Spanish but apparently you are an expert identifying the culture of a woman who do speak perfect Castilian.

Why so aggressive?

She may speak flawless Spanish - good for her - but I've known people to speak flawless, almost accentless English even though they never lived in an English speaking country prior to adulthood. These people certainly don't 'identify' as British nor would they ask anyone to consider them British.

Hilary Thomas is American.

@PurplePansy05

Honestly, the fact someone can speak the language perfectly proves nothing. I can speak three at the same level and change accents between them in one sentence if I want to and most native people don't realise I'm not a native until I introduce myself and my name makes it obvious. This isn't bragging, it's a fact of life that some people are linguistically talented, perhaps more than others. It has no bearing on determining their nationality.

You see - that is a pretty cool skill. If Hilary had been honest I would be quite interested in a story about a yoga teacher who isn’t Spanish but can speak Spanish with a perfect accent. I’m fascinated by people who can learn languages and get the accent right. (I was really good at languages at school from the point of view that I could learn vocabulary, understand the logic of sentence structures and think of something interesting to say in another language despite my fairly limited vocabulary. But my accents were terrible. Think “Good Moaning” from ‘Allo Allo’.)

@IcedPurple

I really am under no obligation to provide you with a working knowledge of Harvard referencing or Oscola. If it bothers you that much - Google them. I expect my students on first year at university to have had it explained to them by their teachers at school why they can't use Wikipedia as a source

If you're this patronising to your students, I'm glad I'm not one of them. Especially as you seem unaware that few people will be writing peer-reviewed disserations on the education of Hilary Thomas.

3rd time Prof: Which part of the Wiki bio do you believe to be inaccurate? Are you saying that people who claimed to go to school with Hilary (in Boston) are fibbing?

If you want to accuse someone of basically being fraudulent, then, yes of course you have to he accurate and use something better than claiming Wikipedia as a definitive source.

Just listened to her speaking spanish. . I wouldn't have known if I hadn't been told she wasn't spanish. Maybe a lot of filler words, a lot of pero bueno while she pauses for though but she would have fooled me, although I'm not spanish I have lived and worked there. She sounds more native than gwyneth for example, but gwyneth just sounds like an american woman with excellent spanish. What it says on the tin. Hilaria adopts the mannerisms of a spanish person imo.

I have no idea who this lady is but pretending to be Spanish sounds a bit bizarre to me? Possibly indicative of identity or trauma issues, as was most likely the case with Rachael Dolezal

I don't think so. In my humble opinion she just got carried a way with a version of herself but because it's all so public, she's been rumbled spectacularly. Lots of people have embellished their family backgrounds to sound more interesting.

I think, as she was doing it, she thought ''it could be interpreted that way'' so that in the moment, she didn't feel that she was lying. I reckon she thought, I have family in spain, I speak spanish, I spent some of my childhood there, my parents are there now......

So it kind of felt like the truth to her.