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Thewithesarehere · 2020-12-27T12:52:59+00:00

I am still quite sick after seeing a dog, nearly my DC’s size, running after my DC knocking them to the ground and running over them. DC is covered in mud. I was taking a picture of them running to me and it happened in a flash. I shouted at the dog owner who something like put your own children on leash. Why the hell people don’t keep such huge dogs and then let them off leash in a public park around children? DV is covered in mud, shivering and complaining that their leg hurts where it hit a rock and that they are scared of dogs. I wish I had done more but don’t know what else I could have done. AIBU in feeling bloody furious?

Scottishskifun · 28/12/2020 13:26

@Ritasueandbobtoo9 I agree that dogs should have licences to stop bad owners.

But you shouldn't tarnish all owners as said just like you shouldn't tarnish all parents with neglect.

My dog has been attacked by children in the past and yes the parents said they were only playing.... When a group of 9 year olds hit her as we were walking past with her to heel. She cowered and yelped she is the height of my hips yet she is still gentle and well behaved.

I don't think it's insensitive to say no user has a greater right to public footpaths or spaces. Yes people should clean up after their dogs again don't tarnish all dog owners.

More people are using outdoor spaces in the current climate and that means people need to learn to get along using common access and not thinking they are more entitled to it.

WitchFindersAreEverywhere · 28/12/2020 13:27

@Yohoheaveho

Kicking a dog is a near surefire way to end up with a dog bite, as the dog will try and defend itself from being kicked What's the best way to respond to a dog which is attacking you then?

Chilli powder in a film canister.

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:28

[quote LST]@op so you would have me change my ways to make you happy even though my off lead dog would come now where near you? Yes? Entitled much...[/quote]
Since there is no way to prove you can control it all the time consistently, yes, I do want off lead dogs in designated areas only. Then I will change my ways and won’t come anywhere near those area. It works both ways and seems to be working elsewhere, so why not?

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GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 28/12/2020 13:30

OP, do you have an issue with well-mannered off-lead dogs with good recall? I was out yesterday with a 7 month old puppy, in a fairly busy place, training her on and off lead to walk at heel, sit, stay and recall. She didn't bother anyone. She's being trained to leave unknown dogs and people alone. Are you saying she and I should be picking up the tab for the idiot owner who let their dog hurt your DC?

And on that note, I hope your DC is alright, and hasn't been left with a lasting fear of dogs.

LST · 28/12/2020 13:30

@op can you actually read? I have said multiple times why it wouldn't work for me. So no, it wouldn't work.

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:31

Chilli powder in a film canister.

I have never carried a pepper spray with me. Can this cause any lasting effects to a dog? I hope not because I wouldn’t want that at all. I would just want to buy enough time to get things under control.

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LST · 28/12/2020 13:31

@GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman yes she does have a problem with well behaved dogs. Because you can't 'prove' they're well behaved and she comes first over everyone else and their dogs.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 28/12/2020 13:32

Oh, x-post.
All dogs and dog owners to pay for the faults of the irresponsible.
Got it.

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:34

[quote LST]@op can you actually read? I have said multiple times why it wouldn't work for me. So no, it wouldn't work. [/quote]
Sorry I might might have missed it. Problem is, no matter how crass that sounds, I will always prefer my children’s safety over your mental health. There are so many other pets/hobbies/activities you can choose from. I don’t have that luxury because off lead dogs are everywhere.

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Scottishskifun · 28/12/2020 13:34

@Thewithesarehere and having children doesn't give you higher privilege to outdoor space compared to other users unless it's a playground whatever that user is.

Very few dog owners will say oi this is a dog walking wood didn't you know..... 🙄 I have both child and dog neither has greater priority to public spaces. You seem to think because you have children that gives you higher rights then others. The same thing can be applied to people who don't like children ruining their peaceful walk......

LST · 28/12/2020 13:35

@op my mental health? What are you talking about. My dog means more to me than upsetting an entitled woman the other side of a field to me. So there we go!

Yohoheaveho · 28/12/2020 13:36

Chili powder in a film canister
I can see that would work but how do I then defend myself against attack from the outraged dog owner because it's (large muscular) 'fur baby' can't possibly be in the wrong

Scottishskifun · 28/12/2020 13:37

@Thewithesarehere

Chilli powder in a film canister.

I have never carried a pepper spray with me. Can this cause any lasting effects to a dog? I hope not because I wouldn’t want that at all. I would just want to buy enough time to get things under control.

It can have lasting effects on you..... Its illegal to carry or use in the UK

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:38

@GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman

OP, do you have an issue with well-mannered off-lead dogs with good recall? I was out yesterday with a 7 month old puppy, in a fairly busy place, training her on and off lead to walk at heel, sit, stay and recall. She didn't bother anyone. She's being trained to leave unknown dogs and people alone. Are you saying she and I should be picking up the tab for the idiot owner who let their dog hurt your DC?

And on that note, I hope your DC is alright, and hasn't been left with a lasting fear of dogs.

I can take your word for it probably but I have no idea how you can ensure this everywhere and for everyone. Like someone posted upthread about their council laws in Australia, people still blatantly ignore it even when there are fines and rules in place. So I can’t see how it can work otherwise. It’s just not possible.

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Yohoheaveho · 28/12/2020 13:40

I have both child and dog neither has greater priority to public spaces
Are you really saying that the rights of the dog are equal to the rights of a human??

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:41

I have both child and dog neither has greater priority to public spaces.
It’s not a good argument I think. If a dog injures a child, which of the two will be PTS? Humans always will be a priority

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VinylDetective · 28/12/2020 13:41

Oh do piss off with this “fur baby” nonsense. They’re dogs. If someone threw chilli powder at my dog, she’d be the least of their worries, it would be me they’d have to deal with and believe me I’m slow to anger but when I do lose it, it’s not nice.

Kaliorphic · 28/12/2020 13:42

The problem is that it's not possible to tell who are the decent dog owners and who are not. So as long as irresponsible dog owners allow their mutts to misbehave, then everyone will need to pay the price. I'm happy to tbh as a dog owner, in order to stop the fuckwitts from letting their mutts run wild.

LST · 28/12/2020 13:42

@yoho no but the owner of the dog is a human and they have as much right to use the space with their well behaved dog as anyone else.

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Thewithesarehere · 28/12/2020 13:44

@VinylDetective

Oh do piss off with this “fur baby” nonsense. They’re dogs. If someone threw chilli powder at my dog, she’d be the least of their worries, it would be me they’d have to deal with and believe me I’m slow to anger but when I do lose it, it’s not nice.

Are you the dog owner I encountered yesterday?

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Kaliorphic · 28/12/2020 13:45

Is your dog likely to jump up at some kid and knock them over though Vinyl detective? Because if they're not then I can't see it would ever be an issue. Obviously if someone emptied chilli powder unprovoked over your dog then that would be a different issue.

Yohoheaveho · 28/12/2020 13:45

@VinylDetective

Oh do piss off with this “fur baby” nonsense. They’re dogs. If someone threw chilli powder at my dog, she’d be the least of their worries, it would be me they’d have to deal with and believe me I’m slow to anger but when I do lose it, it’s not nice.

What happens when you lose it then, what do you do Vinyl? paint us a vivid picture so we are in no doubt that if we cross you and upset your dog we will regret it

mbosnz · 28/12/2020 13:47

I think perhaps, it's important to realise that the police and dog wardens are just as unlikely to respond and enforce if someone reacts to their dog rushing at them with force, as they are to dogs being allowed to rush at people.

So it's important to keep your dog safe from people who might overreact to your beloved dog unwanted interracting with them.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 28/12/2020 13:48

Scottishskifun

The problem isn’t there if dog owners are responsible so I certainly don’t tarnish all dog owners but the problem is there because dogs are affecting people in really negative ways and people are allowing this to happen without any consequences. Perhaps certain dog owners need to change things and stop letting their dogs run up to other people.

VinylDetective · 28/12/2020 13:48

@Kaliorphic

Is your dog likely to jump up at some kid and knock them over though Vinyl detective? Because if they're not then I can't see it would ever be an issue. Obviously if someone emptied chilli powder unprovoked over your dog then that would be a different issue.

No, she doesn’t jump up. But can you seriously imagine anyone who loves their dog not going ballistic if some arsehole threw chilli powder over it?