Out of Control Dogs 😡😡!

[Heathercob]

Am I allowed to have a moan about a dog on the beach this morning that was completely out of control and not responding to the owners?
Was having a relaxing boxing day beach ride until it decided to try and attack Heather's fetlocks (ankles). Luckily Heather is a good girl, although I could tell that she was worried about it. When the dog finally went back to the owner, they didn't even put it back on the lead 😡😡!
I REALLY don't want to come off and potentially end up in hospital because someone doesn't bother to train their dog - especially at the moment with Covid about!

Advocating stoning, hitting, kicking, even providing links for the best sticks to assault dogs with.

The horsey people are advocating the same on this thread. People have suggested (and in one case admitted to) using whips on dogs. Another has suggested a mallet.

I 100% agree, as has pretty much everyone else, that dogs should be kept under control. However, there is a level of arrogance in SOME horse owners where they believe their rights override everyone else's. Delaying traffic? Tough luck. Wait in the traffic jam. Leaving horse crap all over paths/beaches? It will be washed away and is fine as it's not as bad as dog poo.

@Swaddlemeinplants

I started a thread in AIBU after a rabid do GC owner shouted at me to put my children on leash when her dog ran over my child, hurting and scaring them That thread has shown very clearly how fed up people with out of control dogs everywhere We really need designated dog spaces and off lead dogs should be illegal. A large number of them are already because their owners are obviously not in control and their dogs are harassing and damaging other people and their property Don’t tell lies. EVERYONE on that thread was in agreement that dogs should be under control and the dogs owner was an arsehole. Then you went off on a rant about you are going to spray dogs in the face and hit them with sticks. Your thread is vile. Advocating stoning, hitting, kicking, even providing links for the best sticks to assault dogs with. I hope it gets pulled.

Oh dear! Not you again! The whole point of that thread is that all dogs in public spaces should b on lead at al times and we should I create designated areas for off lead dogs. Your have been trying your best to derail it and get it deleted.

Yohoheaveho
That sounds more like you just have an issue with large dogs and just don't want them anywhere you might be, regardless of their behaviour.

Then again this thread is full of people seemingly incapable of rationally drawing a distinction between off lead and out of control, and people who seem to have an issue with large dogs for simply being large.

It's always the way on these threads: many dog owners and non-dog owners agree that dogs should be under appropriate control and there's space for everyone to do their own thing in life, and then there's a dozen or so vocal people with their own dog hangups who think the world should cater to the fact they don't want to see dogs.

Out walking in a London park today. Kids playing with a ball. What bit of your dog coming up to us to play with it too is ok? Keep it on a lead if (1) it doesn’t recall the minute you call it (2) you are so distracted you don’t even notice that it’s not with you.

Several owners are clearly perfectly in control of their dogs and there was no issue and they did not come near us. Why should I have to have anything to do with those of you who can’t look after your dog properly? Totally unacceptable.

Why oh why can we not segregate dogs and non dog walking areas everywhere?

Jangle33
The owner of the dog who came up to you was wrong and should have better control. Few dog owners would say otherwise.

In my area there's lots of playing fields that explicitly say no dogs, same for children's play area parks. In larger parks, the children's adventure areas are no dogs too.

If I go to a park that's a big open space then I accept there's going to be people doing all sorts, for example footballs and frisbees skimming my head or rolling in front of me, kids on bikes and scooters (of varying levels of competency), runners, cyclists and other dog owners (most of whom are perfectly reasonable with their decisions for on/off lead time). There's unreasonable and inconsiderate people in life, why push to limit dog owners based on the minority?

@Heathercob, I'm sorry to read about your spoiled hack. You can report the incident to the British Horse Society here www.bhs.org.uk/advice-and-information/common-incidents/dog-attacks

On my fb this morning, a cygnet was killed by an off lead dog in a neighbouring town.
Our village has a pair of Swans that normally have between 4 and 6 cygnets each year, often only one or two survive, often a result of dogs being out if control.

How U.K. law defines ‘out of control’ dogs:

Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:
injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them.

www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

Based on this, a lot of owners with off lead dogs won’t have a leg to stand on.

Erm? Extrapolation? You are not even paying attention to what you initially said! You said that horse excrement is a serious pollutant and I said it’s not. You then went on to try and prove your point and failed.

@Thewithesarehere

How U.K. law defines ‘out of control’ dogs:

Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:
injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them.

www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

Based on this, a lot of owners with off lead dogs won’t have a leg to stand on.

Totally agree. We wear a body cam when out with our dogs

And you're still failing to read my points.

My initial post, including a link to a story about beachs in Melbourne closed down due to pollution from a variety of types of poo, including horse, demonstrates that it is a recognised pollutant. In each post I stated that a single horse is a bigger polluter than a single dog. I never claimed the horse population was a bigger issue than the dog population. That was what you extrapolated to.

You claimed horse poo is more biodegradable than dog poo. I agreed but pointed out a single horse has a more detrimental effect than a single dog due to quantity and frequency plus of course the fact no horse owner ever cleans up. You kept insisting dogs are a bigger problem due to numbers, despite the fact my point was that on a one-to-one basis, horse manure leeches more nitrogen into the ground water due to the quantity and frequency of excrement.

We were walking our dogs(big malumutes) on a country road, both on leads, when about 100m ahead an off lead dog appeared at the end of a drive with owner.

Dog(medium terrier) saw us and ran at us, barking and snapping .
It went for our female, who just pinned it down and vernally warned it. It then got free and went for our male, who also warned it, it then bit our male, which he retaliated and bit it hard, terrier bleeding and yelping. Owner eventually arrives and gets control of his dog, but has the cheek to blame us? Husband is a big guy and tells him to calm down, wind his neck in and learn to control his dog as people are entitled to be in public without being attacked by uncontrolled dogs.

Few days later police at our door, terrier owner filed a complaint that all 3 dogs were on a lead and ours attacked his, and he got bit trying to save his dog from ours, police said they only attend as a person was bit. Police were looking too take our dogs away, with possibility of being pts.

We showed the police the body cam footage, clearly showing off lead dog going for our on lead dogs and owner never near our dogs at all. Police apologised, said no further action and took copy of video.

Police later followed up, irresponsible owner issued with caution for lying to police and told to keep his dog on a lead in public in future.

If we hadn't of had camera, our dogs could of been seized down put to sleep because of a lying irresponsible owner.
Owner of terrier now controls his dog.

I urge responsible owners to get a body cam

Whammy very upsetting for you. Can I ask why you had cameras on anyway? I know a lot of cyclists have them as routine now, I suppose it's the same - you never know what might happen - and indeed how lucky you were.