To ask - can we have a very small truce?

[Furries]

Was unsure where to post this. Really should be on Covid thread, but so many posts on AIBU, so sticking it here.

Obviously, this year has been monumentally shit. Obviously there are multiple points of view.

I duck and dive (not always posting) between multiple threads. There are some that do my head in, some where even just one poster has made me look at things in a different light.

People have strong feelings from all sides. I don’t agree with a lot of them. But, at the end of the day, we are all heading into the weirdest, collective, festive season that any of us will have known.

Everyone is having heightened responses to what’s going on. Some will want to “isolate” and others will want to “protest”. I have used the “” to try to sum up the basic oppositions, so don’t jump on me for them!

Whatever our feelings, would be nice if we could take a break for a day or so. Avoid speculation of what could be coming next week - just have a couple of days to not have to argue/defend our own points of view.

Next year is going to be “interesting” to say the least. Before then, I’d just like to hope that over the Christmas season we could try to take a small step back from arguing with/trying to convince each other that our view is the right one.

Nah. People should talk and argue about what interests them! Just avoid covid threads if you're not into it.

I'm so sick of the covid tattle tale threads so would be happy if they piped down for a couple of days. There are hundreds of threads so not sure how you think you will make everyone benevolent with one rallying cry for peace. But let's hope.

@Brinn

Nah. People should talk and argue about what interests them! Just avoid covid threads if you're not into it.

It’s not that I’m not “into it”. It’s just been so heightened on all sides, kind of think a break might be welcomed by all.

Am not asking for people to change their views. Maybe more of a “resume battle from 27 December”!

Maybe my original post says more about me - step away from here completely is best. But it’s hard when you see valid points from both sides.

I'm not sure I get what you want from this OP? Views on what? Take a break from what? Your post isn't overly clear (to me) and in any case, as ever, people have a right to discussion. If that distresses you or you get nothing out of it then that is absolutely fine but others can decide for themselves.

As an aside not 'everyone' is having a heightened response to anything going on at all. There are also an awful lot of people who don't celebrate christmas or the festive season, who do not need to start in the name of anything.

I understand feeling motivated to want people to be nice to one another OP but perhaps take a social media/mumsnet break if the content you see causes extra strain at this time. It would be a whole lot easier than trying to control something you simply cannot control and are not responsive for controlling. We can't and shouldn't be checking out of the pandemic and discussion of how to remain safe/manage this but individuals can check out of and moderate the content they access online if it doesn't suit them.

@tootesuite

I'm so sick of the covid tattle tale threads so would be happy if they piped down for a couple of days. There are hundreds of threads so not sure how you think you will make everyone benevolent with one rallying cry for peace. But let's hope.

@tootesuite - some of them are painful !

But some of them are justified.

Guess that’s what I mean. The members on here will never agree - and I understand it’s the nature of this forum.

Hide thread in customise should work for you OP

@dontgobaconmyheart

I'm not sure I get what you want from this OP? Views on what? Take a break from what? Your post isn't overly clear (to me) and in any case, as ever, people have a right to discussion. If that distresses you or you get nothing out of it then that is absolutely fine but others can decide for themselves.

As an aside not 'everyone' is having a heightened response to anything going on at all. There are also an awful lot of people who don't celebrate christmas or the festive season, who do not need to start in the name of anything.

I understand feeling motivated to want people to be nice to one another OP but perhaps take a social media/mumsnet break if the content you see causes extra strain at this time. It would be a whole lot easier than trying to control something you simply cannot control and are not responsive for controlling. We can't and shouldn't be checking out of the pandemic and discussion of how to remain safe/manage this but individuals can check out of and moderate the content they access online if it doesn't suit them.

A truce is very different from a break. I definitely didn’t ask for a break from people’s views. And I don’t think I said I was distresssed!

There are multiple threads on this site - with very strong views from one or the other side. Nothing to do with Christmas. You know, the othe4 “c” word.

Re your third paragraph, yes, I kind of agree. But, at the same time, throwing something out there shouldn’t be shot down either. I’m not trying to “control” what people think. More just throwing it out there for all of us to take a break for a few days. From the point of view we’ve all (in our own ways) got enough on at the moment. So stop until at least the 27th!

@Monty27

Hide thread in customise should work for you OP

Erm, thanks - but that’s really not what I’m talking about! Am not trying to bury my head in the frigging sand.

Whilst I see what you're saying and agree it would definitely be very nice if people could just have a break from all this and come together, as it's Christmas, I'm not sure I can completely agree with you. Discussion and debate really are very important right now and there will always be those who want to engage in it.

Also, Christmas isn't important to everyone. You say have a break until the 27th presumably because you'd like a nice peaceful Christmas - not everyone cares about that (I do - but just pointing this out).

So whilst it would indeed be "nice", I don't think it will happen or should happen. Sorry OP!

If you need a break for your own mental health though I suggest logging off here and going and reading a good book, watching a movie, going for a walk in nature or whatever else you do to relax. If you don't want to get involved in it, you don't have to.

I agree with you op. But I think it's not going to happen sadly. With recent things,like Brexit and Covid, to name just two, people have been sort of brainwashed into being one side or the other; there's no encouragement for common ground.

Whatever people think about Brexit for example, I think one of the worst things has been the lack of trying to bring the country together, to show leadership, to attempt to achieve anything like compromise, on what was such a close vote.

People encouraged to nail their colours to one mast or the other.

I was unaware there even were sides.

It seems more like a whole bunch of people who are wondering what will happen next and a few people who have strong opinions.

You are not burying your head in the sand by not reading Mumsnet. You can still get a quick daily update on COVID regulations by looking in the paper online.

We’re not deciding the fate of the nation on here as we have no actual power.

People will only be happy if it's those they disagree with who shut up.

I don't think attempting to control what people should be posting about is ever going to work on a wide open internet site.

If you don't like MN at the moment, have a little Xmas break from it? There are so many other chat sites to choose from, and many have different moderation approaches that will keep things in line in the ways you prefer

I find hiding the Covid board most beneficial! I also just keep off MN for a few days when I think it's going bonkers, it's by far the best way to stay sane.

I just wish all the Covid related threads were in the Covid topic. One of the mods seems to be against moving them whereas the others do it.

If they were in the right place people would know where to go for updates and gloom rather than be reminded when they are just perusing other topics. Some people do not want the constant reminder and come here to read about other things.

Am not trying to bury my head in the frigging sand.

You're trying to get everyone else to change which isn't a) fair or b) ever going to happen.

It sounds like you need a break. Sometimes I take a break when the arguing gets to me.

People will always have differing opinions. They're nit going to come together for a game of football at the front line because it's Christmas.

You sound like you need a break.

I think it would help if people kept Covid topics to the Covid board, instead they're all over AIBU. There's not way to avoid them.

How about you simply choose not to read posts on subjects you wish to avoid? It's really not difficult!

@MysteriesOfTheOrganism

How about you simply choose not to read posts on subjects you wish to avoid? It's really not difficult!

How many posts on AIBU are about the virus but have ambiguous titles? If people put "covid" in the title then I could avoid them.

I understand what you’re saying, but on this issue, I think a truce would be very very difficult. A lot of people are not celebrating Christmas in the way they’d like to because they don’t want to put their loved ones at risk and don’t want to put more strain on an already stretched NHS. They also wanted a stricter lockdown weeks ago so that life could get back to normal quicker - they look at how everything is back to normal in Australia and crave that. When other people post about flouting the rules, it’s inevitably going to anger people who are trying to do the right thing, at great personal cost. My daughter wants to be back at school in January. My son doesn’t want to FaceTime his grandparents at Christmas. He wants to go to their house and give them a hug. We’re facing a longer lockdown because so many people are refusing to sacrifice just one Christmas season for the good of everyone. I don’t see how a truce is possible in those circumstances.

That’s really controlling.

Woah there OP you have some serious control issues!

Maybe just don't read the threads if you don't like them, instead of trying to tell a whole website of thousands of people what to do? 😂👍🤷‍♀️😳

Mumsnet was a bit of a nightmare over the weekend, but other than reporting threads that break guidelines I wouldn't want to stifle debate. If im getting stressed by it, it's my responsibility to either hide threads or take a break from mumsnet. Not my place to tell people not to discuss on a discussion board

@slashlover

I think it would help if people kept Covid topics to the Covid board, instead they're all over AIBU. There's not way to avoid them.

One day, when I am Grand Dictator of MN for the day, I shall use the time to move everything to its proper topic!

Have you considered that maybe people post on here to voice their anxiety in a way in which everyone around them would get exhausted if it was real life? At one of the most stressful times for some people it is much better to have an outlet here. Just hide or ignore posts you don't want to read, much easier than trying to police thousands of posters. Start a few happy, lighthearted theads instead.