If you don't have a young baby right now

[Coronaquandry]

Are you aware that families with babies under 1 are entitled to form a support bubble (even in tier 4)?

YABU - I've never heard of this
YANBU - Yes I was aware

(Just trying to gauge how pissed off my neighbours will be if I have my parents round on Xmas day)

Thanks

I would just knock on their door and explain to them the rules and what you’re doing.

@Lottieeshborn the under 1 rule applies if the baby was under 1 on 2nd December 2020.

I also agree with pp about essential care.

Sorry, it's a shit situation for most of us and even shittier for some, I hope you can have a nice Christmas xx

Thanks all. I'd love to not care what my neighbours think, but while I doubt they'd report me to the feds they might bitch about me on the Residents Association Facebook page and it would be pretty embarrassing

Not if you’re in Wales

@Coronaquandry

Thanks all. I'd love to not care what my neighbours think, but while I doubt they'd report me to the feds they might bitch about me on the Residents Association Facebook page and it would be pretty embarrassing

Clearly you're a youngun who hasn't reached your fuck it 40s yet.

It's very liberating when you do 🤣🤣🤣

Very convenient rule for Boris and Carrie this year...

If they complain about you on Facebook just reply informing them of the bubble. I live in a block of flats with a Facebook group and in my experience other residents will come to your defence and support you against the curtain twitchers.

Enjoy the support from your parents 😀

I don't have a baby, but was aware of that rule. Sod the neighbours. Merry Christmas.

So if I have a child under 1 and live in Tier 4, can my parents (Tier 3) come for Christmas Day?

@Santaisironingwrappingpaper

I knew this.. Still glad I haven't got a baby!!

Me too!

Your neighbours can do what they like. If they phone the police because of it, they'll look like knobheads, because what you're doing is allowed.

I'm a strong believer of sticking to the rules but applying common sense within what you're allowed to do. If you can visit safely, while taking precautions, great. If there's any risk whatsoever I wouldn't be doing it - covid isn't the best Christmas present!

Yes I knew this. I wouldn't report neighbours anyway.

It has truly been the saving grace for me. My baby is 2 and a half weeks old and I’m still recovering from a c-section. I honestly don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have support from parents at the moment. My heart really breaks for new parents having to go it alone because they haven’t been able to create a support bubble

@RumpoleoftheBaileys

So if I have a child under 1 and live in Tier 4, can my parents (Tier 3) come for Christmas Day?

@RumpoleoftheBaileys yes. If your baby was under 1 on 2nd December then you can form one bubble as long as neither you or your parents bubble with anyone else.

Just because you 'can' doesn't mean you 'should'.

Too many people are looking for excuses to continue their Christmas day plans, not actual support. It's this attitude that's helped land all of us where we are.

I’ve not got a baby and wasn’t aware of this rule until yesterday and I actually think it’s ridiculous . Fair enough some couples with a baby may need support but do they need it any more than for example a couple with a set of 2 yo twins ? The way I see it it’s this type of thing that makes people think sod it and not bother with the rules at all .

Why do you care about the neighbors?? Sod them!!!

@Floralnomad
but do they need it any more than for example a couple with a set of 2 yo twins ?

Shame Carrie and Bojo don’t have 2 year old twins, or that would be the bubble rule

@Floralnomad it's probably to do with the risk of PND for the mother's

Christ I remember what it’s like having an under one. I looked forward to Christmas, Easter etc for the sole reason that there would be enough doting grandparents around to give me a break.

She’s now two so we don’t qualify, but as we’re tier 2 and count as my mum’s support bubble I’m looking forward to four days of actually sitting still rather than being shouted at to come and play kitchens/doctors/blocks etc.

Given the last minute nature of announcements from the DFE, I’ll probably use that time to get some videos filmed for online learning just in case but still. Anyone with a toddler knows that’ll still be less exhausting than 5am starts and hearing MUMMEEEEEE every time you try to wee alone...,

I have a lockdown baby and am aware.

Unfortunately I haven’t bubbled as the seven months before the rule was announced showed me that none of my family members would be suitable. We’ve been very cautious. By necessity or wilfulness, they have not.

It upsets me.

Yes I read this but pissed off that this wasn’t a thing when my now 14 month old was 5 months at the beginning of the first lockdown!!

If you are within the rules then why are you worrying what your neighbours think?
I suppose it’s like anything though, just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. I think they do say if possible support bubbles should be local so if you don’t need help then I wouldn’t see your parents on Xmas day, especially as you say they are in a different tier. If you need help though, then you need help but if it’s just cos you can have Xmas dinner together then I wouldn’t.
I wouldn’t report anyone though...and if your neighbours are pissed of enough to, then you are within the rules so you’ll be fine.

I knew this, but only because I read it on a thread on here yesterday evening.

@Coronaquandry

Thanks all. I'd love to not care what my neighbours think, but while I doubt they'd report me to the feds they might bitch about me on the Residents Association Facebook page and it would be pretty embarrassing

The feds? Dear oh dear. Isn’t the Facebook residents page a bit grown up for you?