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To think the only way forward now for school staff is to strike in Jan

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OverTheRainbow88 · 17/12/2020 07:19

Sadly, I believe, the only way forward now for school staff in to strike in Jan.

Schools are unsafe, understaffed and not ‘covid secure’. This will get much worse in Jan when people are allowed to meet inside in a 3 household bubble and travel freely around ( in England at least).

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OverTheRainbow88 · 17/12/2020 18:04

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Well yes that was announced after I started this thread.

I had actually started a thread about the first week back in Jan being online learning a month or so ago!

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GetOffYourHighHorse · 17/12/2020 18:07

'Perhaps care assistants should strike to. We have been treated appaling by the government.'

How? Nhs and social care staff have rightly had ppe, massive financial resources chucked at them. I know CEV care staff who didn't work for most of last year and rightly got full pay. How have you been treated appallingly?!

Maybe everyone should strike! I dont know anyone who has had a lovely time this last year. Or, we could all look forward, put our big girls pants on and see the end is in site?

TheRubyRedshoes · 17/12/2020 18:11

A one week phased return is a pitiful solution and will not to anything to stop the spread at all!

Why cant they go on line for 3 weeks until anything caught over xmas works it way through without spreading it to the entire community.
Primary whilst not ideal doesn't seem the pose the awful risk that exists in secondary schools at he moment.

Secondary children do not need at home supervision and those that are really unable to be at home can go in. On line learning - safe at home, I cannot fathom why they cannot implement this.

DipSwimSwoosh · 17/12/2020 18:13

I don't want to strike. I'm not at any particular risk and neither is the majority of my students, who have sacrificed enough.

DonkeyMcFluff · 17/12/2020 18:18

The government is doing nothing
Teachers are letting them do nothing. Teachers do have power - they can vote with their feet. But as usual the teachers aren’t being treated with respect as contracted employees and are being expected to go above and beyond... and as usual they are complying. Please work beyond your contracted hours for free, please spend your own money on resources, please put up with being verbally and physically assaulted - and now please risk your life. If teachers keep doing it they only have themselves to blame.

GrumblyMumblyisnotJumbly · 17/12/2020 18:18

Sensible to test but I can only concude that the DFE HATE school staff to give them one day to prepare for this so the leadership team have to work over the holidays AGAIN!

INeedADayOff · 17/12/2020 18:23

Can I strike to?
I’ve work solidly throughout this
My a&e nurse sibling and my paramedic sibling have been on the NHS frontline with fuck all thanks?
I appreciate teachers are in a shit situation but so are a lot of people...
I work with around 30 people all of whom will be here there and everywhere for Christmas so my risk is the same is it not?

waitrosequeue · 17/12/2020 18:26

Yeap ! Teachers striking will really get the public behind them. Hmm

FreshFreesias · 17/12/2020 18:26

Children benefit from being in school.
Very mean that you expect hard working people to home school their kids.
You need to calm down OP.

OverTheRainbow88 · 17/12/2020 18:27

I work with around 30 people all of whom will be here there and everywhere for Christmas so my risk is the same is it not?

I have 32 in my tutor group and then 11 different classes of kids between 28-33 in a class. So that’s about 384 people not 30.

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Squidsister · 17/12/2020 18:27

The private sector (and I have worked in both) has moved onto Zoom/Teams etc very quickly, they had to. They couldnt hid behind the head, the schools, the government as to why they werent available. Surely the Head knows their school better than anyone. What about coming up with some solutions and some Can Do as opposed to Cannot Do every single time they are asked to do something.
Bathroom12345 - maybe because the private sector is much better equipped than state schools?!!
DH works for the private sector and has a new laptop with latest software, a work iPhone with loads of data, and an IT support team on call, who very quickly got everybody set up to work from home include data packages for those who didn’t have wifi at home.

I work in a state school. I have an old laptop with a knackered battery, that periodically shuts itself down. I have to use my personal phone for work calls and my own data allowance. At school, our IT department is basically one overworked guy who often take a week to solve any issues. In other schools I have worked in, their IT support is a teacher who happens to be good at computers...

It’s not about not having a Can Do attitude, it’s about not having the resources to make online working run properly. All the positivity in the world isn’t going to make my laptop work better. And no, I can’t afford to buy my own.

Mintjulia · 17/12/2020 18:34

Op, do you imagine that other workplaces are safe? They certainly are not.

We're in a pandemic, we have to get through as best we can. Dcs don't cope well out of school, other people can't work. Firefighters, nhs, police, the people who keep your water running or the heating on. Striking would be incredibly irresponsible.

None of us is having any fun, but we need to keep going for another couple of months.

Ylvamoon · 17/12/2020 18:37

@OverTheRainbow88

I work with around 30 people all of whom will be here there and everywhere for Christmas so my risk is the same is it not?

May I ask what you are doing over Christmas? I bet you will be here there and everywhere.

noelgiraffe · 17/12/2020 18:40

My family won’t be going anywhere or hosting anyone this Christmas because it’s not safe for me to do so given how covid-riddled my school is.

I have only seen my parents once this year due to this government’s inability to make schools safe.

StatisticalSense · 17/12/2020 18:45

Why are teachers' lives any more important than anyone else. If keeping schools open leads to the death of 10 teachers but prevents 200 suicides amongst teenagers it is clearly the least bad option.

noelgiraffe · 17/12/2020 18:48

If keeping schools open leads to the death of 10 teachers but prevents 200 suicides amongst teenagers

Given your username you will have the stats to back that claim up?

flumposie · 17/12/2020 18:51

@StatisticalSense your comment is truly sickening.

mrshoho · 17/12/2020 18:55

This thread is certainly highlighting some shocking attitudes!

CountessFrog · 17/12/2020 19:00

I see the government only took notice once it hit the south

GetOffYourHighHorse · 17/12/2020 19:01

'Sensible to test but I can only concude that the DFE HATE school staff to give them one day to prepare for this so the leadership team have to work over the holidays AGAIN!'

Surely they're all set up for live lessons now as we've been on/off for months? I can't imagine giving various year groups different start dates takes that much preparation.

noelgiraffe · 17/12/2020 19:03

Surely they're all set up for live lessons now

Remote learning doesn’t have to include live lessons. There are schools out there without the tech to do them.

2020out · 17/12/2020 19:06

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Sensible to test but I can only concude that the DFE HATE school staff to give them one day to prepare for this so the leadership team have to work over the holidays AGAIN!'

Surely they're all set up for live lessons now as we've been on/off for months? I can't imagine giving various year groups different start dates takes that much preparation.

Sorry that you imagination is struggling.

You don't just "set up for online learning" once and then magically all lessons can be taught that way at the drop of a hat. Each lesson we teach is planned for progression of every student. The structure of online lessons is totally different to that of in person lessons.

Plus the resources given to those without get returned after each self-isolation in my school, so there's that.

Plus, leadership can't give these start dates because they've no idea how they're going to set up testing centres in the school gym...

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OverTheRainbow88 · 17/12/2020 19:13

@Ylvamoon

We aren’t seeing any family/friends indoors over Christmas, even though it will be a close family members last Christmas; if they make it to Christmas.

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SingleWontMingle · 17/12/2020 19:17

How infuriating that people are goading teachers based purely on the OP despite the fact that literally NOBODY I know would actually go on strike.

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