to think Julie Birchill has used Islamophobia to publicise her new book?

[chomalungma]

Even if the usual suspects whinge about freedom of speech and you can't say anything nowadays without being cancelled.

This has all the elements of modern social media life and Twitter.
Rod Liddle wrote an article in the Spectator about how he couldn't have been a teacher because he couldn't conceive of not being unable to shag the kids

""I never found out because the one thing stopping me from being a teacher was that I could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids," wrote The Spectator contributor Rod Liddle in the 2012 article. "It seemed to me virtually impossible not to, and I was convinced that I’d be right in there, on day one. We’re talking secondary school level here, by the way."

It was tweeted out recently.

There were lots of comments including one by Ash Sarkar. a Muslim journalist, who has written about Islamophobia. The word paedophilia was mentioned.

Julie Birchill quote tweeted that - and then brought up her religion and worshipping a paedophile during a heated online exchange.

She then deleted her twitter account.

Meanwhile, she has a book coming out - about what happened after she wrote an article that was criticised for transphobia.

Her publishers have now decided to cancel that book deal because of the Twitter exchange with Ash Sirkar.

www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/15/julie-burchill-publisher-cancels-book-contract-islam-tweet-little-brown

Burchill’s publisher, the Hachette imprint Little, Brown, said it had decided not to publish Welcome to the Woke Trials because she had used indefensible language when communicating with the journalist Ash Sarkar.

Sarkar said Burchill “quite openly subjected [her] to Islamophobia”.

Little, Brown said Burchill’s comments on Islam were “not defensible from a moral or intellectual standpoint” and they “crossed a line with regard to race and religion”. It added that her book had become “inextricably linked with those views”

Naturally, the Daily Mail comments are supportive of her and Laurence Fox was quoted saying there's no such thing as free speech anymore.

Did she know what she was doing - and has tried to get publicity?

Or is she just an Islamophobe?

www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/15/julie-burchill-publisher-cancels-book-contract-islam-tweet-little-brown

Could essily be both.

If you need to bring something like this into an argument, you already lost the argument.

*easily

True

I see there is a thread on Feminism about this already.

Why bring up her faith in such a conversation?

No surprise to see the usual commentators out there defending her - and no doubt those same commentators would be out on the attack if a different faith had been mentioned.

I think this new so-called left wing witch hunting is terrifying.

The joke is they see themselves as left wing at all. I see them as the epitome of cultural and social conservatism.

Julie Burchill doesn't need her publicity. She has her readership.

I also think it's interesting pretty much everyone to take the fall is a woman. JK Rowling, Julie Burchill, that scientist I'm the trans debate, Maya.

It's almost like...what the actual witch hunts were like.

I think this new so-called left wing witch hunting is terrifying

Was this a 'witch hunt'?

No one asked her to bring up Ash's faith in that conversation.
No one had to search out her previous tweets. She did lots of controversial tweets that night.

Her publishers took the decision to cancel the book deal.

I am sure they would have done the same if it had been a male doing the same thing.

@CrotchBurn

I also think it's interesting pretty much everyone to take the fall is a woman. JK Rowling, Julie Burchill, that scientist I'm the trans debate, Maya.

It's almost like...what the actual witch hunts were like.

Lawrence Fox...

Oh, hang on...

@chomalungma
Sure I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that to prevent a book from being published because you didnt like a tweet the author wrote is my idea of fascism.

[quote CrotchBurn]@chomalungma
Sure I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that to prevent a book from being published because you didnt like a tweet the author wrote is my idea of fascism.[/quote]
Or maybe they didn't want to be associated with an Islamophobe.?

@chomalungma
Yeah actually I take that back, it just happens to be that the women are higher profile.

Did you see this? Jordan Peterson www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/25/staff-at-jordan-petersons-publisher-protest-new-book-plans

And I am sure she can find someone to publish her book.

@chomalungma
Why do they "have to be associated" with anything?
They're publishers not political parties. I don't really give a shit what the publisher's personal political viewpoint is. They could be strongly against abortion (I'm very much pro choice) - I really dont care. Because I expect them to publish books for me, not create government policy.

I am sure that there are staff who do feel uncomfortable being associated with some books and authors.

There's probably a market for a publisher who doesn't mind being associated with controversial authors.

Many people do give a shit about company's values and how they uphold them... that includes their employees, contractors, products and so on.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Many people do give a shit about company's values and how they uphold them... that includes their employees, contractors, products and so on.

This.

Just like a TV channel or advertisers doesn't want to be associated with certain individuals or viewpoints.

Where are these tweets? Can we see them in full somewhere?

@CrotchBurn

Where are these tweets? Can we see them in full somewhere?

She deleted her account

There are some of them on Twitter with images.

I think this was JB being a goady fucker which is something she excels at - just the way Sarkar excels at being a one-note perma-outrageist.

But nothing will convince me that it's right to cancel a book (especially not one about cancel culture) because of a goady tweet.

It may be a publicity stunt though because I'll definitely be buying the book.

I don't think it was just this tweet. It sounds like it was more like a last straw.

But nothing will convince me that it's right to cancel a book (especially not one about cancel culture) because of a goady tweet

How many Islamophobic tweets would it take?

Is calling out Islamophobia only a left wing thing?

Mary was apparently 12 or 13 when Jesus was born so... I don't think anyone should be dragging any religions into any arguments which are not about religion.

Imagine trying to shut up someone who is talking about pedophilia and child abuse🤷🏻 What does it say about the person...

I stopped reading the papers she wrote in because of some acidic ant-Irish comments she made.
She is just pure shite.