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It's a Christmas one - extra person, AIBU?

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ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:04

Christmas 2020 was planned, or so I thought. My parents are coming to stay with me, DH and our two DC (3 and 5). My brother is also coming up. They all live in a Tier 3 area and so do we, so there is risk but it's risk we are willing to take (we live several hours apart).

Today, DM messages our family WhatsApp thread (consisting of me, DH, parents, DB and my aunt). She says that my aunt is happy to come and spend Christmas with us all at mine and DH's house, she'll stay in a hotel nearby. It's presented as all decided. Problem is, neither myself or DH were aware of any of this and not consulted at any point! Came as a total surprise!

Background - aunt lives alone, her DP died a decade ago. Happily child free, big group of friends. We had invited her for Christmas but she said she would be happy seeing friends as she always does. She spent Christmas with us once when DD was a toddler, and made it very clear it wasn't her type of Christmas as too 'child centred'. Fair enough, I don't blame her! So we really weren't expecting this.

I was so angry, still am. DM has form for this kind of thing - deciding something that usually involves putting us out in some way and then telling us without ever asking first. In the past I've let it go, ever the peace maker, but it infuriates DH and has caused a lot of friction. My DM just won't listen on the few times I've gently tried to broach it so I've dropped it, fighting pick your battles and she won't change now.

But this has made me furious. It's not that I don't want to see my aunt! But the risk factor increases if she is here (and she's also from a Tier 3 area), and we won't strictly be three households (DM thinks she can bubble with my DB, aunt and us). And more than anything, it's the lack of respect for us that burns! Ok so my aunt will be in a hotel for the three nights. But mostly she will be staying with us during that time, and she has a hearty appetite! And I've no idea how we will fit everyone in. I was already feeling stressed about Christmas, life, work and parenting had drained me, and now somehow we've ended up with the biggest family Christmas in years and on the worst possible year for it?!

DH spoke to DF and it transpires my aunt's plans have fallen through so we can't really let her spend Christmas on her own. But I don't feel right about it - and know that if we say no, we become the bad guys.

So:
YANBU: you're right, your parents have acted unreasonably here...
YABU: suck it up, it's three days only and Christmas is a time for family...

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HotSince63 · 14/12/2020 20:07

Depends...

Do you want to actually take a stand this time?

Or are you just on here for a vent?

MaelyssQ · 14/12/2020 20:10

I would say tough shit Auntie, Covid restrictions are in place for a reason.

ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:13

A vent i guess...I also want to know what people would do in my situation! I'm very tired today so be good to get some objective views on it all...

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ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:14

Oh and DM knows exactly how I feel. I called her straight away and told her in no undercertain terms. Both she and DF know how upset I am. I can't let this one go by.

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tiredqueen · 14/12/2020 20:17

Well a bit of both so I can't pick!
You should suck it up and let auntie come because it's the right thing to do and it would be really sad for her to be home alone

However my mum also has form for making decisions on my behalf and it sends the red mist down. So YANBU for being fucking angry!!!

Comefromaway · 14/12/2020 20:17

She has no right to invite someone without your agreement but it is correct that if your aunt lives alone she can bubble with one of the three families (unless she’s already bubbled with someone else).

tiredqueen · 14/12/2020 20:17

What did your mum say @ColourMeExhausted?

Sirzy · 14/12/2020 20:19

Unless she is in your parents bubble normally and it doesn’t sound like she is then I would say no.

Fallenmadonnawiththebigboobies · 14/12/2020 20:20

I believe hotels have to close in tier 3 which might solve the issue...

Comefromaway · 14/12/2020 20:22

@Fallenmadonnawiththebigboobies

I believe hotels have to close in tier 3 which might solve the issue...
They are allowed to be open during the Christmas period, even in Tier 3.
HotSince63 · 14/12/2020 20:22

I would text the WhatsApp group right back and present it as all decided from your end that it's not happening...

"I'm glad you want to spend Christmas with the family Aunt, obviously that takes us over 3 families and we're not really wanting to take any risks, so you guys have Christmas day together at mum and dads and we will do our own thing here, and lets arrange a time for a video call during the day. Lots of love x".

mbosnz · 14/12/2020 20:24

I guess one solution is your DM, DF, and your aunty bubble together separately. With DM doing all the work. . .

TheOneTheOnlyPedroPony · 14/12/2020 20:24

Not in any way saying what your DM has done is right but if your parents formed a bubble with your auntie (or your brother assuming he's a single adult) then they'd be classed as one household so you would be within the rules if you wanted to host your auntie as well

ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:24

I have only spoken to my mum once since, and tbh that was more of a rant! Especially when she said 'I don't see the problem, you only need to worry about an extra chair!' After that I sent them both a message explaining why I felt so annoyed to which she curtly responded 'ok. Point taken'. DF far more apologetic and understanding.

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winterchills · 14/12/2020 20:28

What @HotSince63 said! That's the perfect response

ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:28

The bubble thing...so my DM says she is in a bubble with my aunt (separate household) and my brother (another household) and us! Surely that's not allowed?

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ColourMeExhausted · 14/12/2020 20:29

Nice one @hotsince63 - might get you to do all my family responses, you put it better than I could!

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mbosnz · 14/12/2020 20:29

Point taken, mother dearest, and?

cabingirl · 14/12/2020 20:30

YANBU in the way it was presented. If they'd said 'poor Auntie is going to be all alone, do you think we could fit her in?', you know you would have said yes, and wouldn't feel bulldozed in the same way.

But you should definitely not just 'suck up' all the extra work and stress.

  1. Get your DM to mentally prepare Aunt for a child centered Christmas so that you don't have to worry about if she's enjoying it or not.
  1. Make a list and delegate as much as possible and don't feel guilty about it. Including spreading the cost of entertaining everyone.

Wine/Booze/Soft Drinks
Snacks
Treats
Desserts
Side Dishes

Make sure everyone contributes to the above list - including your brother.

  1. Any time anyone asks 'Can I help' - say yes and give them a job immediately. If they don't offer or stop asking after the first time, given them a job anyway.
  1. Get your DM to come over early and help with cleaning / organizing the house to make sure you have room for everyone. Or at the very least get her to babysit your DC while you sort things out.
Sirzy · 14/12/2020 20:30

Over Christmas 3 house can bubble together but that has to be an exclusive bubble.

If your aunt is normally in your mums bubble as a single adult household then that would count as one household for Christmas

TheOneTheOnlyPedroPony · 14/12/2020 20:31

@ColourMeExhausted

The bubble thing...so my DM says she is in a bubble with my aunt (separate household) and my brother (another household) and us! Surely that's not allowed?
It is allowed but only if it's what you want as well!
It's a Christmas one - extra person, AIBU?
AnathemaPulsifer · 14/12/2020 20:34

If your aunt is on her own she can form a support bubble with your parents, and then counts as part of their household for the Christmas three household bubble. Still a very annoying way to present the idea to you though!

www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 14/12/2020 20:34

"I'm glad you want to spend Christmas with the family Aunt, obviously that takes us over 3 families and we're not really wanting to take any risks, so you guys have Christmas day together at mum and dads and we will do our own thing here, and lets arrange a time for a video call during the day. Lots of love x".

This option gets my vote. Your mum caused the mess, so she can sort it .

Comefromaway · 14/12/2020 20:34

As a single person living alone your aunt can permanently bubble with another household so they are classed as 1.

You would be the 2nd household and your brother 3rd.

But your aunt can’t temporarily bubble with your mum over Christmas is she’s already bubbled with someone else.

lemonsquashie · 14/12/2020 20:39

It is annoying for you, I do get it. But, I couldn't ever see somebody spend Xmas alone. Especially a close family member. Imagine how miserable that would be

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