should you give Muslim neighbours a Christmas card?

[grannyinapram]

YABU
you shouldn't as they don't celebrate
YANBU
you should or else its excluding them

@Livelovebehappy

I do. But I know them, and know that they appreciate being given one. If I didn’t know them too well though, probably not, as I guess some will be okay, others not so much.

Why do you think anyone would be 'not so much ok', receiving something so thoughtful/being included in a friends or neighbour's cultural/religious celebration?

Leaannb you're talking utter nonsense. I thought you lived in america anyway?

@sst1234

Hate to point this out, but people belonging to minorities always find it peculiar that white people are always afraid of causing offence. How did it get like this. Speak to older people who came here in the 60s and 70s and they find this PC culture baffling.

Only white people?

So no black Christians are afraid of causing offence?

What a weird statement.

As a white 51 year old woman living in one of the most diverse areas of London/Essex, I can tell you honestly I have never met a Muslim/Hindu/Sikh or anyone else who has been 'offended' by receiving a Christmas card or gift.

Again...that's despite what the tabloids would like us to believe.

Why do you think anyone would be 'not so much ok', receiving something so thoughtful/being included in a friends or neighbour's cultural/religious celebration?

(At least some) JWs would be uncomfortable with it. They see such celebrations against their religion. I have a good friend who is JW and just don't talk about these things with her (though she will sometimes ask "did you enjoy your holiday" after Easter or whatever). But I don't think she would feel able to accept an xmas card (or birthday card for that matter, not that I know when her birthday is!) so I don't put her in that position.

Why should they give a gift on Eid if they weren't given a Christmas card?

Eid is before Xmas and it gives an indication if the neighbours are open to cards which celebrate a different faith's celebration.

@user1471565182

Leaannb you're talking utter nonsense. I thought you lived in america anyway?

It's possible to live in America and chat shit 🤣🤣🤣

@WorraLiberty

Eh? What are you talking about? Not sure you read the comment before you replied.

NoDabbingPlease to be fair I only know 3 JWs and they say they just accept them from neighbours/kid's friends and don't display them in their homes.

They'd have to be pretty awful people to want to tell their neighbours to stop, as that'd make them feel bad for doing something nice.

Why do you think anyone would be 'not so much ok', receiving something so thoughtful/being included in a friends or neighbour's cultural/religious celebration?

Well, it's out outside the realm of possibility. But it would have to be a real arsehole (or a proper religious fanatic) to be "not ok" with it. Most people would read nothing into it apart from it's a nice gesture.

As others have said, I wouldn't assume they don't do Christmas; however, if you know for certain they don't (I don't) or are unsure if they do, then a seasonal card wishing someone well is still a nice gesture.

I appreciate when people who like to do cards take the effort to make a non-Christmas message. Really, I'm happy to be included either way, but making that extra effort just feels more thoughtful.

Is about the gesture op. Nothing to do witht then actually celebrating or not. Plus... they might also celebrate christmas. You dont know that 😊
And most people nowadays just celebrate "Christmas " not the birth of jesus.

I give Christmas cards and presents to my staff whether they are Muslim, Jewish, atheist, Sikh or any other religion or non religion.
I send Hanukkah cards, and Eid Mubarak cards where I know someone celebrates.
I’ve had Muslim friends come to Mass, I’ve been to Gurdwaras and Synagogues.
I’ve promised my Muslim deputy a couple of bottles of wine when I can see them; they like red wine, but don’t like being seen buying it.

I don’t think I’ve ever caused offence or been offended. Most people like happy messages and goodwill.

One of my aunts converted to be a JW.
She has absolutely no problems with anybody sending her a card. She even sends back a non-religious one with a message akin to 'have a wonderful time over the holidays', which she believes is no different to telling someone to have a wonderful day.
I think it may well be very individual.

@WorraLiberty

NoDabbingPlease to be fair I only know 3 JWs and they say they just accept them from neighbours/kid's friends and don't display them in their homes.

They'd have to be pretty awful people to want to tell their neighbours to stop, as that'd make them feel bad for doing something nice.

That's fair enough. I don't think my friend would want to upset anyone by telling them to stop, but she'd prefer not to receive them in the first place if that makes sense (hence for ex. not telling anyone her birthday. It makes things easier for all). She'd be happy to receive some festive food though!

[quote sst1234]@WorraLiberty

Eh? What are you talking about? Not sure you read the comment before you replied.[/quote]
I did read it

'White people are always afraid of causing offence'

What? All of us?

*'White people are always afraid of causing offence'

What? All of us?*

Nobody is this thread has stated their race, so I don't really know what that comment was referring to in the first place!

@DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow

*'White people are always afraid of causing offence'

What? All of us?*

Nobody is this thread has stated their race, so I don't really know what that comment was referring to in the first place!

Exactly. It's in danger of going off on a tangent.

We're talking about people who celebrate Christmas, sending Christmas cards to Muslims etc.

Not white people

And it’s possible to be white and Muslim

We usually have a party every Christmas, my Muslim friends all come and have a great time. The only people I know would get offended about Christmas are really fundamental Christians.

Yes. My Muslim friends at uni gave out cards and wore Christmas jumpers, one had a Christmas tree.

@Idontbelieveit12

Yes. My Muslim friends at uni gave out cards and wore Christmas jumpers, one had a Christmas tree.

That's the thing isn't it?

So many Muslim/Sikh/Hindus etc have been born and raised in the UK and will have taken part in Nativity plays/Christmas concerts etc, so they look forward to the fun of Christmas regardless of their religion.

A few houses round here leave their Diwali lights up on their houses and switch them on again at Christmas time.

I got a Christmas card from a Muslim colleague this week.

I would give a card but would choose a non religious seasonal winter theme - a picture of a snowman, holly & berries, a winter scene, those sorts of things - and would wish them seasons greetings a happy new year.

I have a few Muslim friends, quite a few participate in stuff like exchanging cards and enjoying traditional seasonal foods. My Jewish colleague always brought doughnuts to the office for Hanukkah, Hindu colleagues have brought Diwali treats and Muslin colleagues have brought treats for Eid too.

I always send Christmas cards to my Muslim and Jewish friends and they reciprocate. It isn’t offensive to send someone of a different faith a Christmas card, if that’s what you’re asking. My Gran is Jewish but she gets lots of Christmas cards every year and she displays them quite proudly on the wall.