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No deal is the height of irresponsibility

56 replies

Songsofexperience · 11/12/2020 09:38

It's a terrible outcome for regular people and our livelihoods. It's bad for basically everything.
So gutted for this country, really.
Merry fucking Christmas

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mollypuss1 · 11/12/2020 12:26

@NailsNeedDoing

It was inevitable that this was going to happen, the EU were never going to make it easy. What did leave voters honestly expect to happen? They are who I blame, not the government, however incompetent they are. They could be the best in the world and leaving the EU would still have been a stupid thing to try and do.
If leaving the EU would always be a stupid thing to try and do why don’t you blame the government as they were the ones who created this mess via the referendum? Seems strange to blame the people who believed the government’s lies rather than the government for lying.
Sloth66 · 11/12/2020 12:27

The public were told that a good deal would be easy, and we’d all be better off leaving. Cameron is to blame for holding a Simplistic yes no vote on such a serious issue.
Then cynical lying careerists, people like Johnson, Gove and Rees Mogg, who sold a false narrative . Poorer people are likely to suffer most, and food banks are already growing every day.

TheSunIsStillShining · 11/12/2020 12:33

No deal is better than a bad deal.

This might or not be true IF we could form a rational opinion.
We don't know the exact WTO tariffs, don't know the supply chain disruptions, don't have any idea what products will be affected, don't know what WTO standards are on services (79%of UK gdp), andsoforth....

So no, at this point we have no idea what a deal would be or a no deal will be. and we have 20 days to "prepare".
As a business I'm livid because I have no idea if we will have clients after jan 1.
As a resident of uk I am livid because I don't know if I should be stocking up on stuff or my usual foods will be available.

20 days to go (incl a major holiday when life stops) and the narrative is about fisheries (0.2% of gdp if I remember correctly) and about purple haze.

Gov had 4 years to plan and create studies and what if scenarios.
They should be thrown in the Thames

20shadesofgreen · 11/12/2020 12:39

I think people need to really experience no deal on both sides so everyone can have a better understanding as to why a deal is necessary for everyone.

I think the people who will be hardest hit by no deal are the British poor, the Irish poor and Boris Johnson’s ears, from the fact that ultimately he and he alone will be held responsible for what he promised and has failed to deliver. Theresa May has not come out shining in glory but Teflon Boris is going to fare much, much worse.

ricecookie · 11/12/2020 12:47

the problem is that like with austerity - the government did not get the blame. people just got used to it and blamed the foreigners.

so yes in the long run - most Brits will suffer. Deregulation only really benefits those who are already on the top. The other people to suffer will be the mc i.e. they will become a little bit more like the poor because anything 'foreign' i.e. holidays, food, goods, services etc will become that much more expensive.

Whether there is anything that can be done to remedy it - frankly it's too late.

CherryValanc · 11/12/2020 12:48

@Viviennemary

People voted many years ago for a trade treaty. They did not vote to be ruled by European parliament. That's why we are leaving.
What trade deal was voted for?

The UK aren't answering to the EU Parliament at all. They have left the EU and will now be exporting and importing to countries they once has intra-comminity dispatches and acquisitions from.

The EU has standards and rules on things imported into the EU. The UK must meet them now.

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