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To be disgusted by this comment?

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Pinkerbells · 06/12/2020 19:28

My DPs boss is one of the "freedom warriors" who think that there is a massive conspiracy around the pandemic. I haven't really listened to much of him, although I do occasionally laugh at some idiotic meme he posts on Fb k. I know everyone is titled to their own opinion, so until now I've just stayed quiet. However, today he likened the corona virus to the Jewish holocaust and said it was basically a mass cull. I have now blocked him, but AIBU to think this comparison is disgusting and downright offensive to holocaust victims

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Cam77 · 06/12/2020 20:17

The notion that massive intellectual titans like Gavin Williamson and Boris Johnson and that gormless looking one are masterminding some grand conspiracy against the freedom of the human race, featuring such bone-chilling slogans as “Eat Out to Help Out”. I just.,, Oh and funny how no one gave China the memo which has been racing back to decent growth.

thosetalesofunexpected · 06/12/2020 20:20

This is obviously inappropropraite, offensive to Jewish people/holacaust survivors.
Don't like the comment..

PatriciaPerch · 06/12/2020 20:21

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HallieKnight · 06/12/2020 20:21

Why were you Facebook friend with dhs boss in the first place?

MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 06/12/2020 20:21

I wouldn't necessarily call it anti-semitic, but it does seem disrespectful and way over the top. Does he really think this disease is the same as deliberate targeted murder of a people?

daisychain01 · 06/12/2020 20:21

I doubt he means to be offensive, he probably really thinks it.

So you really think a grown adult doesn't realise what he said was offensive? Talk about letting an utter arsehole off the hook.

PatriciaPerch · 06/12/2020 20:23

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flaviaritt · 06/12/2020 20:25

So you really think a grown adult doesn't realise what he said was offensive?

I don’t really think it - as in, I can’t be certain - but then I don’t know exactly what he means by the comment, so I am willing to allow for the fact that he might have been trying to trying to offend, but as the comment says nothing negative about Jewish people, I am also allowing for the fact that he wasn’t.

Manolinette · 06/12/2020 20:29

Block but don't Cancel.

Information in all its wavy forms is important to us all.

Becca19962014 · 06/12/2020 20:30

You get berks in all walks of life.

I had an ex colleague, and very senior manager, stop me in the street to strop about the govnerment wanting to shut down Wales and kill all businesses. That covid was a big con, invented by government to control us as no one had 'really' suffered. He actually had a petition he was expecting me to sign. Of all the times to pick he chose the day after a family member had died, finally after a horrendous experience, of covid and he got short shrift and I didn't care I was in the street. Then he told me it must have been her fault, did she live near a mast or have secret nasty conditions? Because that was probably what killed her. So then I lost it completely, rarely have been so angry. He disappeared sharpish, I hope to rethink his attitude, but I doubt it. He was always terminally stupid about many things but that was bad even for him.

I had a NHS manager who was determined everyone on disability payments was living a life of luxury and campaigned for them to be abolished and replaced by the same amount as those on Jobseeker's, as the disablilty act 1995 meant everyone could work as everywhere was now accessible. Until he suffered an accident, became disabled and learnt the reality, which for him meant losing his home, because, shockingly, the government don't pay people's mortgages Hmm or give them enough to meet all needs, and neither (where I live) is everything on the NHS e.g. NHS physio is very strictly kept to six weeks then you pay private.

patricia there's a shocking amount of nasty anti-disabled stuff in that act - like refusing care assessments; there's someone on a page for one of my illnesses who has just found out she won't have any support at all from next April because her reassessment wasn't done, reason given was that act. Routine care in community stopped "due to risk".

Livelovebehappy · 06/12/2020 20:32

PatriciaPerch a lot of people have had their rights removed during this pandemic. Cancer sufferers have been mostly denied treatment for the last 10 months, resulting in nearly as many deaths as Covid has caused. People have been denied operations, which will impact on their health and could shorten their life expectancy. Many people have lost their jobs and their businesses, resulting in mental health issues and an increase in suicides. There aren’t many sections of society that are coming through this pandemic unscathed.

Becca19962014 · 06/12/2020 20:36

Holocaust denial is very sadly a real thing. In some countries it is illegal. Many years ago I looked into it, can't remember why, and I was shocked after finding a page of famous holocaust deniers. Can't remember where it was now. But there were names on it that really shocked me.

Given up arguing with people about holocaust denial and covid denial now. In fact now I only follow two people on social media, both are nuns.

PatriciaPerch · 06/12/2020 20:37

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flaviaritt · 06/12/2020 20:40

It’s not about Holocaust denial.

Becca19962014 · 06/12/2020 20:41

I was given two years to live, almost exactly two years ago. Ive had no help or support at all since mid March. When what I was told would happen does there's no chance of any treatment because it required help to be put in place and it was refused because of that act. My condition has badly deterioated since then. Complained and got a reply from the ombudsman reminding me to be more respectful of NHS staff due to covid pressures, and, to consider researching impact of covid on the body. Even after I pointed out, bluntly, I'dlost a family member to covid it was still in my final letter, oh and no I didn't get my support reinstated.

So many people have been let down and, I include some with covid in that. They can't have care assessments either if they have long covid.

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 06/12/2020 20:42

I know this isn't the point but I don't really understand his comparison.

If he thinks covid is a hoax etc, then how is it a cull? If it's fake why is it killing people?

That aside, yes he's a cunt. Obvs

Becca19962014 · 06/12/2020 20:43

@PatriciaPerch

sorry I think I really misjudged this thread if it was about holocaust denial, I thought it was a comparison between the subtle regression in people's rights Confused I think I need to stop listening to my own Brian sometimes
Don't worry, me too! I think it was the mention of it and conspiracies in general!
Pinkerbells · 06/12/2020 20:44

@Becca19962014

You get berks in all walks of life.

I had an ex colleague, and very senior manager, stop me in the street to strop about the govnerment wanting to shut down Wales and kill all businesses. That covid was a big con, invented by government to control us as no one had 'really' suffered. He actually had a petition he was expecting me to sign. Of all the times to pick he chose the day after a family member had died, finally after a horrendous experience, of covid and he got short shrift and I didn't care I was in the street. Then he told me it must have been her fault, did she live near a mast or have secret nasty conditions? Because that was probably what killed her. So then I lost it completely, rarely have been so angry. He disappeared sharpish, I hope to rethink his attitude, but I doubt it. He was always terminally stupid about many things but that was bad even for him.

I had a NHS manager who was determined everyone on disability payments was living a life of luxury and campaigned for them to be abolished and replaced by the same amount as those on Jobseeker's, as the disablilty act 1995 meant everyone could work as everywhere was now accessible. Until he suffered an accident, became disabled and learnt the reality, which for him meant losing his home, because, shockingly, the government don't pay people's mortgages Hmm or give them enough to meet all needs, and neither (where I live) is everything on the NHS e.g. NHS physio is very strictly kept to six weeks then you pay private.

patricia there's a shocking amount of nasty anti-disabled stuff in that act - like refusing care assessments; there's someone on a page for one of my illnesses who has just found out she won't have any support at all from next April because her reassessment wasn't done, reason given was that act. Routine care in community stopped "due to risk".

Idiot boss has said very much the same thing about covid being a con to control us. Probably part of the same group
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Hopeisnotastrategy · 06/12/2020 20:45

@Echobelly

Yup, as a Jew I am sick and tired of people trivialising the Holocaust ti score cheap points,

Sadly I have to quite regularly tell people on social media (not friends, luckily) that it's not acceptable to do this. Most usually it's about 'oooh, it's like living under the Nazis when someone can report you to police for have 24 people at your house during a pandemic' Hmm

@Echobelly I completely agree with you.

" They know not what they do". We can only hope.

I am married to a German. We would both find that utterly repugnant. 💐💕

Brefugee · 06/12/2020 20:45

fb? you should have reported it

Pinkerbells · 06/12/2020 20:46

Its a cull because they have produced a virus that is killing people and now a vaccine too which will also kill (like a lethal injection)

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PatriciaPerch · 06/12/2020 20:47

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Becca19962014 · 06/12/2020 20:47

@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady

I know this isn't the point but I don't really understand his comparison.

If he thinks covid is a hoax etc, then how is it a cull? If it's fake why is it killing people?

That aside, yes he's a cunt. Obvs

He thinks both are hoaxes. Designed to reset the world into a new age or some rubbish like that. Specifically people are dying of other things and the governments have made it all up, like people made up the holocaust, so everyone would feel sorry for the Jews.

I've spent way too much time engaging with idiots like this online over the years...

Pinkerbells · 06/12/2020 20:47

@Brefugee

fb? you should have reported it
I have done
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