AIBU allowing dd out for pizza with a friend??

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My Dd is desperate to have her friend over tomorrow. Nobody seems to be taking notice of any of the rules and there are sleepovers going on and teenagers in and out of each others houses. I have put my foot down and said no as is against the rules so I suggested that they go for a pizza instead not realising that this isnt allowed either. We are a tier 2 area and I thought (ok I should have checked) that this was allowed but only family groups or bubbles allowed. She hasnt been out for months with anyone because we usually follow the rules hut no one else seems to. It is partly my fault as I suggested it. AIBU to just let her go and forget the rules for 2 hours???

It mightn’t be up to you - I’ve been into a couple of restaurants and they’ve asked me whether we’re a household. One also asked for proof. How old is your DD? Could you form a childcare bubble with the other child’s family, reciprocate with sleepovers?

Well no one has been out for months. No one is saying it isn’t crap, but she cannot go out for pizza with someone who isn’t in her household. I suspect the pizza place won’t let them anyway.

Confused, do you think because you “usually” follow the rules covid will give you a few hours off? You know the rules, if you’re happy to break them then that’s on you but don’t go looking for validation...

Ps or they can eat somewhere with outdoor seating, they’re allowed to do that within rules

Do they go to school together?? I was in Liverpool one before went to gourmet burger question I wasn’t asked any questions and there was groups of people clearly not a household together.

They can just say they're sisters or something if asked.

They can go out for pizza if it’s an outdoor setting.

I took my son and his friend out for lunch today at a fairly well known pizza restaurant. They sit next to each other in many classes at school as well as doing after school sports together. I have to balance my kids’ happiness with these rules.

@PotteringAlong

Well no one has been out for months. No one is saying it isn’t crap, but she cannot go out for pizza with someone who isn’t in her household. I suspect the pizza place won’t let them anyway.

Willing to bet the pizza place will let them.

I'm letting my teens mix out of school now and again, with 2 specific friends, or kids they sit with in lessons. Easier for me though as in tier 3 so they are outdoors. I think seeing as they mix so much at school for lessons, it is harsh not to be able to have a partial social life.

Tell your dd that the rules say she needs to sit outside and you trust her to follow them. Then don't ask if she sat outside so that you can believe she followed the rules.

Yes, yabu.
Others having sleepovers and being in and out of each other's houses does not mean it's ok to join them and wave your dd off to the pizza joint with a pal.

On a weekend evening it seems every bench in my town has teenagers in small groups, eating pizza. Up to 6 is allowed, but a reminder about distancing wouldn't go amiss.

Imo restaurants are unlikely to ask for proof or challenge people over this. They are desperate to make money plus the staff really don't deserve the grief they would get over it.

My DD is out this evening having pizza with friends. They've found a pub with a heated outdoor seating area and booked a table so all allowed. I don't facilitate them breaking the rules, definitely not in my house. Bloody cold here tonight though!

No it is not allowed. End of.

Get a takeaway pizza and sit in the park? It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, it's up to you to make the rules you think are right for your family.

I would let her, but I wouldn’t ask for opinions on it anywhere let alone on here and I can’t imagine why people keep doing so.

Hi Op
Good idea finding a Resturant/cafe with outdoor seating area with outdoors heaters..

I am in wales and have quite often visited cafes,/redturants etc
Places like weatherspoons etc,have plastic partians to do social distancing ..

Youre daughters emotional health/well being is important it is a balance and as long as they her friends wear mask, social distance,

Very good idea what one Poster said of joining up as a social bubble to do with childcare,are they in school together?(if they are, why not join them as a bubble too,being she seems them every day regard less ..

Wow nasty comments here. Teenagers brains are developing they need to socialise and develop their emotional and social skills.

They are personally low risk so we need to balance fear of the virus with their well being and mental health.

School nowadays is so formal and lacking in joy. Are we seriously saying teens shld not have any social life?

I think children and teenagers shld have more freedom than older people as its so vital to them. In any case they cld find somewhere to eat in a heated garden?

Even if it is the rules can we not challenge rules we think are wrong? Poor kids growing up with these restrictions. We will have a mental health crisis to deal withm

The other thing op of you have a garden yourself is let them have a pizza there wrapped up warm perfectly legal.

I was going to ask about my teen going with a couple of friends for pizza too. Mine is in the same school bubble. Then I thought maybe it wasn't allowed, told her I'd have to research it. Her best friend went off to do A levels and is missing the rest of the group of 4 all toghether.
Mental health is going downhill, it's hard to know what to do for the best. We are in Wales, the rules changed again today, I'm totally lost as to what they can do to tell the truth.
OP has your Dd already arranged to go? What you going to do.

I agree about not asking in here. Do what seems sane to you. I have kids and lots of people are allowing playdates when the children are already in bubbles all day. Yet post it on here and you will be shamed and judged.

I think we as a nation have lost our minds to be honest. Imagine a year ago thinking it wld be a thought crime to even suggest two teenagers should be allowed to have a meal together.

If you're in tier 2 you can meet outside in a group of 6 I think.
No to actually going into a restaurant though if not in your household.

@FedUpAtHomeTroels

I was going to ask about my teen going with a couple of friends for pizza too. Mine is in the same school bubble. Then I thought maybe it wasn't allowed, told her I'd have to research it. Her best friend went off to do A levels and is missing the rest of the group of 4 all toghether. Mental health is going downhill, it's hard to know what to do for the best. We are in Wales, the rules changed again today, I'm totally lost as to what they can do to tell the truth. OP has your Dd already arranged to go? What you going to do.

In Wales that’s allowed. Will have to be lunch though as everything shuts at 6pm. No more that 4 people.

@upsidedownwavylegs I’m with you

@HelloDulling So they don't have to live togther or eat outside then?
If so they will all be very happy.
We could plan a trip to Pizza.