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White House poker. Biden trumps Trump. (Trump thread #115)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 01/12/2020 13:39

Here it is.
Thanks @BruceandNosh for the title.

And still we persist.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4084369-Figures-Don-t-Lie-But-Liars-Do-Figure-Trump-thread-114?msgid=102240605#102240605

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maggiethecat · 02/12/2020 13:02

The thing is that his fans would love an alternative inauguration. It's another whirl in fantasy land.

giletrouge · 02/12/2020 13:27

Yes I'm not going to be remotely surprised if he holds some kind of alternative something while the inauguration is on. Why wouldn't he? The best thing would be if the whole world's media of all forms could resist giving it any attention. One can hope.

DGRossetti · 02/12/2020 13:28

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@Roussette

The GOP are afraid of the split, that’s why they’re letting him drag them to the right.[/quote]
c.f. The Conservative and Unionist party of Great Britain.

DGRossetti · 02/12/2020 13:29

I’ve read that Trump is considering an alternative rally and announcing his candidacy for 2024.

He's trying to end-run around GOP selection ?

I wonder how many people who had "2024" pencilled in as their shot at POTUS will be happy to let that happen ?

Cacacoisfarraige · 02/12/2020 13:34

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DGRossetti · 02/12/2020 13:46

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@DGRossetti

None of them want to be the one to stab him in the back, because that person will never be forgiven. They’re all hoping someone else will do it for the ‘good of the party’[/quote]
as I said, cf the Tories. Bearing in mind 2017-2019 was spent entirely on a pas de deux amongst the senior Tories about desperately not wanting to be the next PM, but the next but one. To the extent that the imaginative and unheard of position of "temporary Leader" was created briefly.

In the end Boris the bold stepped up (probably not quite believing his luck). And we all know how that will end now.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 02/12/2020 14:15

In some ways it would be a good thing if he does decide to hold some event or other at the same time as Biden's inauguration, because with a bit of lucky his madder followers would turn up for that and leave the inauguration alone.

BruceAndNosh · 02/12/2020 14:30

Ellis and Guiliani statement in response to Barr saying "no evidence of fraud"

*With all due respect to the Attorney General, but he's full of shit"

I may be paraphrasing a bit but that's the gist

Roussette · 02/12/2020 14:34

The thing is...I can imagine Trump's 'alternative' inauguration because undoubtedly Biden's will be sensibly spaced and will not have huge numbers because if covid.
So Trump will hold a super spreader event and call it as bigger than Biden's.

BruceAndNosh · 02/12/2020 15:23

And General Flynn is calling for introduction of Martial Law.
Because that always ends well.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/12/2020 16:00

@Roussette

The thing is...I can imagine Trump's 'alternative' inauguration because undoubtedly Biden's will be sensibly spaced and will not have huge numbers because if covid. So Trump will hold a super spreader event and call it as bigger than Biden's.
Yup.

I'm sure Biden will avoid as much as possible any mass gatherings so I don't know if they're planning to use the National Mall for the public. I suppose they could rope off sections and allow only a certain number per section. 🤷🏼‍♀️

On the other hand....I wonder if Scrotus will try to preempt the National Mall for his own super spreader rally usage.

DuncinToffee · 02/12/2020 16:22

@BruceAndNosh

And General Flynn is calling for introduction of Martial Law. Because that always ends well.
This is what he said

twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1334001013397786626?s=21

White House poker. Biden trumps Trump. (Trump thread #115)
CaveMum · 02/12/2020 16:29

Trevor Noah takes a swipe at Melania’s Christmas decorations 😂
fb.watch/27uyH6sUIb/

chomalungma · 02/12/2020 17:31

Suspend the Constitution ?

"That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary. There wasn't even any rioting in the streets"

Cacacoisfarraige · 02/12/2020 17:43

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DuncinToffee · 02/12/2020 18:01

Flynn is one crazy dangerous fucker yes

Meanwhile the 'kraken' seems less and less so

Rocky start continues for Sidney Powell's election-fraud lawsuit in Wisconsin. The judge assigned to the case says her team filed a draft motion by accident and still hasn't complied with the basic rules for seeking a temporary restraining order

twitter.com/bradheath/status/1334168556389478400?s=19

PerkingFaintly · 02/12/2020 18:39

@Cacacoisfarraige

Flynn is one crazy dangerous fucker
So, I was trying to compose a post about what I'd heard about Flynn long before he got involved with Trump.

(I know military & security types who've had to deal with some of his output professionally in years past.)

But, yeah, short version.Grin

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 02/12/2020 18:48

Does Flynn have any real clout with the military at the moment, though? Would the military act like that on his/Trump's say-so? I mean, I think Trump lost the military with his "losers" comment, didn't he?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 02/12/2020 18:59

And attacking McCain in the disgusting way that he did, and taking the money for their schools and housing in order to use it to build his vanity wall, and not going to the military cemetery in France because it was raining. I don't suppose those went down too well either.

PerkingFaintly · 02/12/2020 19:23

I'm very out of date and TBH don't know how he was seen by different parts of the US military.

My gossip came from UK military folk who were Shock when this headbanger looked like he was getting anywhere near the White House.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 02/12/2020 19:52

The tragedy of General Flynn cannot be understated.

Not only was he the former NSA, but he was, more importantly, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. He didn't get that position by being a Trump fluffer. Once upon a time, he was considered one of the sharpest minds inside the intelligence community.

He was also the J2 (Head of Intel) in Afghanistan about 10 years ago. He was brilliant. He really understood the problems inside the IC and how the GWOT had acted as a corrosive agent.

How General Flynn went from writing this report (which was spot-on and still is) to a full-blown QAnon is depressing, apropos, and dumbfounding, all at the same time.

It’s a good question and it goes to something that’s a recurring theme around here: Do people “go” crazy? Or were they always crazy, and just passing as normal?
Continues...

thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/the-fire-rises

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BruceAndNosh · 02/12/2020 19:55

Powell is also a crazy dangerous fucker.
She and Lin Wood (an equally inept lawyer) are currently holding a meting with a load of yahoos... So far they've recommended circling Georgia Gov mansion until he changes his mind, much booing Bill Barr,,, FBI and CIA. 1776 much mentioned and wresting back control. They're bloody advocating Civil War

PerkingFaintly · 02/12/2020 20:02

God, I hate to say it, but there's a real possibility that point 2 in that link is correct: the new government of the US may be sworn in, but the idea of governance of the US has broken.

Obviously Biden winning the election is better than Biden not winning, but this isn't the moment when the blue flashing lights and kindly police officers and mums with cocoa descend to tuck us all up in bed after the big adventure, so we can wake safely in the morning.

It's more like a waking nightmare.

I'm sure Trump isn't the main deal any more. The demons he's fed and grown aren't going back in their box any time soon.Sad

PerkingFaintly · 02/12/2020 20:05

I mean in NorthWest's link: thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/the-fire-rises

A few weeks ago Indi Samarajiva wrote a piece about the aftermath of the election from the viewpoint of someone who had lived through an attempted coup in Sri Lanka.

His essay was slightly—but only slightly—overheated. And his main point was, I think, essentially correct. I want to share it with you at some length.

"Two years ago, I lived through a coup in Sri Lanka. It was stupid. The minority party threw chili powder at everyone in Parliament and took over by farce. Math, however, requires a majority and the courts kicked them out. They gave in. We’d been protesting for weeks and yay, we won.

"No.

"I didn’t know it at the time, but we had already lost. No one knew — but oh my God, what we lost. The legitimate government came back but it was divided and weak. We were divided and weak. We were vulnerable. . . .

"Four months later, on Easter Sunday, some assholes attacked multiple churches and hotels, killing 269 of us. My wife and kids were at church, I had to frantically call them back. Our nation was shattered. Mobs began attacking innocent Muslims. It was out of control. The coup broke our government, and four months later, that broke us. . . ."