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Talking to ow again?

36 replies

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:05

Long time lurker. Old username is not working.

Bit of history: dh had a text/emotional affair (?) With female colleague from work over a year ago now. As far as Im aware nothing physical happened. This was ocnfirmed by texts I had seen before I confronted him, perhaps if I didnt there would have been.....
Weirdly a few months after, they had a big spat at work which led to her complaining to the SLT about him. They held a mediation meeting where they had to apologise to each other. After that, tey never spoke.
Fast forward to lockdown....ow had a significant operation she wasnt present in any of the online virtual meetings. Meanwhilst, I gave birth to our third child in Oct..Dh had some time off for this and I got the feeling he wasnt happy....postpartum man blues maybe? Who knows? But Ive had a niggling feeling he didnt really wang third child. He seems distant and detached.
Last week, I was picking second dc up from preschool, when I walked in I could her dh on phone. He like many others is working from home. For some reason, I had a feeling he was talking to this ow. Something about his voicex way he spoke. He seemed very friendly. Laughing and joking about something theyre working on. God knows why I thought it but usually they say rely on instinct. Anyway, it was confirmed it was the ow. I was very upset..one because I didnt think they spoke at work, two because he didnt tell me straight away..I asked him outright.
I stated he did seem verybfriendly with her which he denied. I asked how she was with him and he said shes ok.
She actually contributed to the gifts his team got him from his work which he seemed shocked at, maybe because of that falling out.
Anyway, I have a suspicion she is back at work - dh is allowed back into the office two days a week for now. Only a few people are, as they are very strict..I asked him and he said no he doesnt think she will be back for a long time as she has a few health issues (nothing thats on the clincally vulnerable lists though)
I have a niggling feeling he may be lying and perhaps theyve rekindled their friendship or whatever it was since hes been allowed back kn the office as this is when ive noticed him being very distant...this is how he was last time when I discovered the EA.
Hes only been allowed back in from last week btw.
AIBU to think he is lying to me? Should I try to confront him more or trust him?

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Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:07

Sorry for the amount of typos..Using phone to post this.

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gingingerbread · 30/11/2020 15:10

I would wait until I had evidence, then confront him. But really, if you don't trust him, maybe it's time to walk away.

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:10

**the gifts for new baby that should read..and she wrote on the virtual message card.
Ow knkws I knkw as last year, I tried to confront her sending text messages so i did find it odd how she had wrote a message knowing that shes aware that I knew about the affair.

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Hanab · 30/11/2020 15:10

Your instincts are screaming at you..
he did not tell you the were in contact again..

Have an honest convo .. you wont ever be at peace if you don’t get the truth

myusernamewastakenbyme · 30/11/2020 15:11

Can i ask why you forgave after the text/emotional affair?

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:11

@gingingerbread
How will I be able to get evidence?
Would it be likely she woule be back in work? I work in a school who basically brought everyone back in September even me who was in my third trimemester. I worked right up until my due date in October So im not sure what other workplaces deem as "unsafe"

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mildlymiffed · 30/11/2020 15:16

@Freshprincess12 I would tread carefully. An emotional affair is no less destructive and head fucking than a physical affair.

If he's "cheated" before, what's to say he wouldn't again. And now you are back in turmoil needing to know answers. He's lied before, remember he has form. Why were they speaking? Surely they can converse by email if it is work related? Post event they should be non-verbal contact. That's the only thing that is fair on you I'd say.

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:18

@myusernamewastakenbyme

I planned to leave which is why I confronted, I was shocked at his reaction though as he was very sorry.

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Waveysnail · 30/11/2020 15:23

Did he want a third child?

DianaT1969 · 30/11/2020 15:24

Like others, I'm wondering why you were trying to conceive a couple of months after discovering the emotional affair? Did you have marriage counseling or something at the time? It seems a leap to go from not trusting him - with very good reason - to cementing yourself into the relationship further with another child. He probably thinks there won't be any repercussions from his behaviour.

Amira19 · 30/11/2020 15:28

I'm also confused why you would try for a baby when he had an emotional affair. You don't know for a fact its not been physical.

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:30

Oh god no! If anything, I have shown the least interest in having another child. Its been him and his parents who always mentioned it. Third dc was a definite accident.
He seemed happy enough when I told him. Even got rid of his beloved jaguar xe to change it for a bigger family wagon.
It has been tough though not just on him but me as we had a toddler already, and I dont thinknwe were prepared to how jealous shes been acting out.

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Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 15:35

@Amira19

The emotional affair ended in May. Although, of course I cant be a 100% certain about that..the big feud between them happened in August. Apparently, it was quite bad as she had accused him of being very aggressive. Oddly, she never told them.about the affair or texts they previously had which could have gone in her favour?
After that, they never spoke as confirmed by his manager . They were moved away from each other as it was seen as necessary unless they had to work on something together.
What I dont get is why after that, they would be friendly again. There would always be that tension and trust issues as she wanted to put in a formal complaint about him

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Amira19 · 30/11/2020 16:13

They had a big blow argument at work which resulted in the bosses getting involved? This isnt just an emotional affair op but most likely a physical one especially with emotions running.

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 16:16

@Amira19
Yes but that was not related to the messages/affair. It was a few months after it had stopped. Shes in a higher position than him and he hadnt handed in work before deadline. She confrotned him about it and he became very confrontational which led her to accuse him of being aggressive.

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AnyFucker · 30/11/2020 16:20

I have replied on your other identical thread but I would say you do not know the half of it.

HotSince63 · 30/11/2020 16:33

I doubt you even know the half of the truth about the 'big feud' in May, do you actually even believe there was a big feud and they never spoke after that? And why would your DH manager 'confirm' this to you?

What I dont get is why after that, they would be friendly again

Yes, it doesn't add up, does it? Someone's lying.

Amira19 · 30/11/2020 16:36

I guarantee you dont know the half of it and everyone at the workplace is aware of what's gone on. This blow up wouldn't of happened if it wasn't physical sorry but I think youre being naive to think otherwise.

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 16:41

@HotSince63

It went on for a while..he came home that day and told me what happened. Then rang in sick for a few days which he never never does. So I knew it was something big..during that time when henwas off sick, he had calls from two of his managers..they all favour her as shes in a higher position, worked there for years..I could literally hear the whole conovosation as he was sat right next to me. His manager was asking him to apologise to her because he had shouted at her. He replied back that he wouldnt because she had deemed him as "aggressive" and lied about him slamming his hands on the desk when he said he never did. (TBH, I believe he did do this as he has always been somewhat aggressive in arguments since Ive known him..very hot headed but also very strong willed and always wants to be the one thats right)
There were also emails going back and fourth with his manager saying that she would "take it to the grade 7s if he didnt apologise" actually sounded very petty from her side as well..but there was a definite rift between them and they had both said some choice words about 2each other..his other work colleague came to our house and said that she was a very jealous woman and probably jealous as he had a family/children and she doesnt.

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Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 16:42

@Amira19

I may be well naive..I dont deny this..Im just going off the facts I know..i.e hearing the phone convos and reading the emails.
What do you think happened? Please tell me as maybe I am missing something

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confusedx3 · 30/11/2020 16:45

OP, I know its easy to say as an outsider but why are you accepting this?

I don't even think what is happening now is remotely relevant, you don't trust this man and he has disrespected you whilst you are pregnant too, no less.

I wouldn't be able to continue in this relationship i'm afraid, especially not if my partner worked with OW.

HotSince63 · 30/11/2020 16:47

@Freshprincess12 I was talking about your comment After that, they never spoke as confirmed by his manager. Why would his manager be confirming to you that they've never spoken since?

This affair has been the gossip of their workplace, and he's mugging you off.

Amira19 · 30/11/2020 16:47

You're definitely missing it clearly the rowing he had maybe she threatened to tell you or she found out about the baby but people don't react over an emotional affair like that, its highley they were physical with each and now they are back on friendly terms and hes disinterested in your 3rd child. I think its clear to see and staring you in the face. This baby was never going to make up for the deciet

Freshprincess12 · 30/11/2020 16:52

@HotSince63

You're right..I dont know 100% which I did say in original post. I do remember though his manager sent an email regarding the situation saying asking would he speak to her if he had to and he said yes only if I have to

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Amira19 · 30/11/2020 16:53

Whos idea was it tongave the baby op.

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