Reported Covid positive family for not isolating. AIBU?

[Joswis]

A family in the area I live in have all tested positive for Covid. The mother has been quite open about this on social media. One of the teenagers has been out and about despite being positive.

The mother has let this slip on social media. She has been roundly attacked, but has built a web of lies to try to defend herself.

I have reported them. I suspect others have too. although none of us have admitted this to each other. Am I unreasonable?

@tortoiseshell1985

Yes myob

And in one post we have the reason why we will be in lockdown conditions for a year

@SunflowerButterfly

CrocodilesCry Since you've already descended into name calling, then I will call you what you are:

An aggressive, brainwashed, mindless authoritarian who clearly hasn't done their own research.

I thought your posts were reasonable and measured but just because you don't agree with what's being pushed down our throats by the media people like @CrocodilesCry can only come back with aggression, name calling and insults. I see it all the time especially on Mumsnet.

@SunflowerButterfly

FredtheFerret Another name caller, how original. Ok then, you're a horrible person. I never said Covid couldn't be bad for some people, I know that it can, but I don't agree with turning society into an inhumane totalitarian dystopia Stalin and the Stasi would be proud of.

They have no argument so can only resort to insults typical bullying behaviour. I wonder of there people are so vile in real life?

I agree epcot15, the media has turned people into aggressive totalitarians who are unable to even listen to a slightly differing viewpoint about covid. For some reason they only care about covid deaths, but are fine with all of the suicides, cancer deaths, domestic violence deaths etc. I now understand how Hitler got into power, the Nazis used fear to convince the population that what he was doing was necessary and not that bad because 'its for the greater good' remember. History repeats itself. I never knew how so many people in this country were secret authoritarians. This whole thing has made me realise that I'm a libertarian who will always value freedom but most people want the illusion of safety instead.

YANBU OP x

@SunflowerButterfly

I agree epcot15, the media has turned people into aggressive totalitarians who are unable to even listen to a slightly differing viewpoint about covid. For some reason they only care about covid deaths, but are fine with all of the suicides, cancer deaths, domestic violence deaths etc. I now understand how Hitler got into power, the Nazis used fear to convince the population that what he was doing was necessary and not that bad because 'its for the greater good' remember. History repeats itself. I never knew how so many people in this country were secret authoritarians. This whole thing has made me realise that I'm a libertarian who will always value freedom but most people want the illusion of safety instead.

I totally agree, it's amazing how many people can't seem to think for themselves and use their own brains anymore, they just keep waiting on what the government tell them to do. I've had covid it wasn't pleasant but not the horrific disease it was made out to be back in March and none of my family caught this super contagious disease either even though we lived in each other's pockets for 2 weeks.

About the pcr test Jason Leitch said himself that the test was at bit rubbish' and that's was only in September he said that.

www.fsb.org.uk/resources-page/jason-leitch-talks-coronavirus-and-scotland-s-small-businesses.html?s=04&fbclid=IwAR0RJMl808dcCm8g4CSPUNaoM7VlAJEux0fkmOQcdz-0l18ySTTXtljp5FE

Video is quite long, skip to 24 minutes and that's when he says the test is rubbish.

YANBU, These people need reporting, and fined, they've got absolutely no excuse for breaking the law.

The Government has used fear as a brainwashing tool, scarily effectively actually

This is one of the better explantations I’ve seen for the whole false negative claim thing.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/false-positives-coronavirus_uk_5f686da4c5b6de79b677e909?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAcOP6gBs3tqTdXVHBr4fVkmGlddZmSihyRzN-7SdOmeAvi4so7b_7CUtrVhi-FafwuDStPGNceMPqllT6lyhEbky1CVuqE42c_bakx_TNhsgm9wyci4T7AD4u-G855RjcwPIoFqoTATjDoMygqejV2BXXCUVqeb4E_evW387qqr

I find it quite disconcerting that so many people happily spread false information about ‘the science’ when they clearly don’t understand it, picking one headline to support a viewpoint is misleading and dangerous. Similarly those who misunderstand history and throw around words like Stasi.

YANBU OP, it’s one thing turning a blind eye to someone who should be isolating as a contact nipping oit, doing so when you know you have Covid is something quite different.

YANBU. Their actions could lead to people dying. Plus it’s thanks to twats like this that lockdown will go on for longer.

@SunflowerButterfly

Considering the tests are 93% inaccurate, as admitted even by Boris himself, and as recently confirmed by a court in Portugal, then YABU. Stop snitching on people and get on with your life. The Stasi paid people to do this, it's pretty depressing in the UK in 2020 the Stasi would find an army of people happy to snitch for them. All for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate too. Utter madness.

Except it’s having a knock-on effect to other people waiting surgery, cancer treatment and the like? You are insanely ignorant.

You do know that the Portuguese judgement was based on the laws specific to Portugal about the role of doctors in administering a test?

Also that the point about the number of CT cycles is not the same as 'inaccuracy' (there was a very good post on the thread about accuracy/that court case explaining why that is the case)

@Undercovermuvver

There is, apparently a really simple way for Covid + people to go out. Distance, outdoors, wear a face covering if in a shop. Use the sanitiser!

You will not spread Covid unless you spend 15 mins in a room and sneeze or cough, but don’t be close to people. This is starting to become really depressing and I went for a small procedure today and we all followed the rules. This is the second time during this pandemic and I can really tell you that most people died from underlying causes. I asked.

People who are already unhealthy are dying, just as a person with cancer who catches flu.....boom you are gone. Not saying this for the conspirators but this what what I was told by the radiographers and nurses.....

What a disgusting attitude. Those people who are ‘already unhealthy’, they deserve to die for what, being weak? You’ll find that the underlying conditions are generally chronic conditions like asthma and diabetes, with which people live their whole lives. But hey, fuck them for being such wet losers, right?!

Same here. Going out and about when you've actually tested positive is a really shitty thing to do.

There is a thread in chat at the moment where the op was considering king out for a run having tested positive. Several responses are saying she should. I just despair

@Undercovermuvver

There is, apparently a really simple way for Covid + people to go out. Distance, outdoors, wear a face covering if in a shop. Use the sanitiser!

You will not spread Covid unless you spend 15 mins in a room and sneeze or cough, but don’t be close to people. This is starting to become really depressing and I went for a small procedure today and we all followed the rules. This is the second time during this pandemic and I can really tell you that most people died from underlying causes. I asked.

People who are already unhealthy are dying, just as a person with cancer who catches flu.....boom you are gone. Not saying this for the conspirators but this what what I was told by the radiographers and nurses.....

I am pretty calm about Covid risk overall, but I absolutely despise this attitude.

A good friend, 35 yo with well managed Type 1 diabetes was seriously ill with Covid. He is in good health and was certainly not at any risk of dying anytime soon aside from this. He has a very understanding employer who values his contribution and has been shielding, wfh since March. His life is no less important because of his underlying health condition and I can’t understand why anyone would think he isn’t worthy of protection. Ditto the elderly. If a person dies at 70 who could and should have lived until 90 it is still a tragedy and not collateral damage.

Fortunately df is now home, recovering well. And not boom, gone.

It doesn't really matter if the tests are not 100% accurate as at least one of them must have had symptoms. So irresponsible. I too would have reported them. I have a friend at work who is shielding but is obviously back next week, he wears a visor as he cannot wear a mask he is terrified and so am I on his behalf, we work in a shop.

LuaDipa
Brilliant post. Very well said. I've been trying to put that into words on nearly every thread about this.

The Stasi would have been proud of you.

Going out when covid positive isn’t a demonstration of personal freedom. IT isn’t going to undermine the (elected) totalitarian regime, aka parliament. It’s just going to make more people’s ill, more people need the NHSmore people needing to take more time off work.
Even if you think that lockdowns should have been voluntary, are we really saying that people with a disease wihich lands significant numbers of people needing oxygen in hospitals should be allowed to spread it around further, coz they’re libertarians?

People who are already unhealthy are dying, just as a person with cancer who catches flu.....boom you are gone.

What?!

I'm normally not one for al this and tend to let others do what they want.

But actually being positive and breaking the rules - YANBU. They could be making someone become very ill.

A distant relative of mine has been doing this apparently. Tested positive but still have all her mates round, kids all at schools, she was off at the shops, etc. Said woman is a health care worker in a care home!

I only know about it and her mum was well and truly pulling her up about it all over Facebook. Was quite the online drama for a few days! No idea if she was reported but at the very least she ought to have been to her work and kids schools IMO.

You did the correct thing OP, and the family concerned have brought it upon themselves by talking about it on social media.