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AIBU?

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To be disappointed about this?

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imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:19

We had to do a bit of a fluffy exercise at work.

To pick a celeb/character/person who you admire who has the qualities that are aspirational to our team.

I did a bit of a fun one with my daughter on Elsa from frozen. All the others were men. Mostly ones in suits.

First time ever I've really felt sexism. AIBU?

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user1473878824 · 27/11/2020 23:22

......how is that sexist?

Alexandernevermind · 27/11/2020 23:24

Do you work with men? I guess women would choose women and men would choose men?

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:25

Not against me. But just more generally. They all just happened to pick men. But we don't live in a sexist world?

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imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:25

Mostly men but the women also chose men.

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BlueBirdGreenFence · 27/11/2020 23:28

You didn't pick a woman either. You chose a cartoon stereotype of one...

Alexandernevermind · 27/11/2020 23:28

It surprises me that women would choose men. Are you in a traditionally male industry? Perhaps they are looking to industry leaders or historical figures for inspiration?

user1473878824 · 27/11/2020 23:28

So then you’re also sexist for picking a woman.

Ilovesugar · 27/11/2020 23:28

It’s the whole picture a scientist...old man grey hair ? Never a women normally when you ask children.

I would say it’s not sexist but a Prejudice. Most people thought of a male role model first

Alexandernevermind · 27/11/2020 23:29

Actually @BlueBirdGreenFence has a point. The only woman chosen was a cartoon, which is really sad.

BunnyMacDougal · 27/11/2020 23:29

But you didn’t pick a woman either?

Hawkins001 · 27/11/2020 23:31

Who did people choose ?

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:33

I just chose to do something with my daughter and let her choose for a bit of fun. I didn't really think about it until a saw the outcome.

Just sad that men and women aspire to.. well men!?

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Hawkins001 · 27/11/2020 23:36

I can understand your perspective, me I'd choose Scully from xfiles

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:36

@Hawkins001 a range of people, CEO of a corporate American company, captain cook, big hero 6, someone from suits.. but all male.

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user1473878824 · 27/11/2020 23:36

Women are allowed to admire men. And perhaps they just did the exercise properly.

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:37

Whats wrong with Elsa @user1473878824 ?

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imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:38

Men never admire women though do they? Never. That's my point.

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Bluemooninmyeyes1 · 27/11/2020 23:39

I don’t see what the issue is? As a woman I admire and look up to many men but it doesn’t mean I’m sexist and hate the whole of the female species.

user1473878824 · 27/11/2020 23:43

What does Elsa bring to your team? And how long has your daughter been a part of it to pick a character that it can aspire to? You’re being massively unreasonable so perhaps the problem is everyone else did it properly.

You picked a cartoon but are judging women for not picking another woman.

Lots of men admire women and actually the most sexist bit of this thread is you saying they NEVER do.

I can’t believe you think this is you experiencing sexism for the first time.

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:43

Ok. IABU.

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ErrolTheDragon · 27/11/2020 23:45

YANBU. It's a sign of the sexism in our society that no one chose a woman in this exercise, just one cartoon girl. Not just the statistical bias in the OP's colleagues but in the apparent dearth of role models.

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:45

I'm not judging women. I'm just saying I feel sad that it just happens that everyone in our team happens to admire men.

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MerchantOfVenom · 27/11/2020 23:47

Just sad that men and women aspire to.. well men!?

Well, the men and women in your team do!

YANBU, but you won’t get a sensible discussion on this in AIBU.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/11/2020 23:47

It's fine that they admire men; but I'd have hoped they'd equally admire women and so randomly you should have got a mix. That's the point isn't it?

imamearcat · 27/11/2020 23:48

Yes that's the point @ErrolTheDragon Smile

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