To be thinking I might move to rep of Ireland?

[headcandygrl]

Aibu to think of moving to Ireland?
I am fed up of the lack of jobs here in the U.K.!
There seems to be (from the little research I have done) more benefits there (child benefit is WAY more!) , better job opportunities, less of an effect on jobs due to Covid. I have seen on here that they don't pay council tax! No water bills either. As far as I can see they pay slightly more tax! So it kind of evens out! But wages are better...
The education system there doesn't seem to pigeonhole children for a young age! They don't have to pass GCSE equivalents to do the A LEVEL equivalent...
University costs are less!! They have a grant system that is not paid back!!

Am I looking over with rose tinted glasses?? Is this the reality?? Anyone in Ireland who can clarify details for me?

Now I know they don't have an NHS like ours but from what I can see it is somewhat free for those that need it!!?

I think the midlands are probably even drier than dublin! Amazing how different the weather can be across such a small country. A primary school teacher once told me "Ireland is like a saucer, it is higher around the edges than in the middle" and it made sense when you look at the water cycle where all the rainclouds burst over the coast and mountains and it's gone by the time it reaches the middle. Certainly by the time I was in college and mobiles became commonplace we found that my parents were often out in the sun in their garden while my siblings and I were running through the rain to college (in cities on different coasts).

But I live in the south east of England and it's distinctly drier here. In fact the climate is a big part of the reason I won't go home (I get more sinus infections in the damp air!). I might move on from the UK eventually, but probably not back to Ireland.

I live e everyone telling me my experience of some people is nonsense. I know many families who do not work and have as much as families who do. Do you want me to give the specific details conscially if each one? I have not passed any judgement on this. It's a fact. Heres one example one family of five children in a council house. It's a three bedroom house in a small estate in a small estate in Meath. So that's 700 a month in child benifit. And both parents on unemployment so that's about 900 a month each so that's net 2500 a month
With a medical card, plus fuel allowance. Rent is 25 euro a week. Why is me pointing this one ( of many examples I know of) annoying people?
These are relatives so very open re their finances.

I've seen the brutality of hoe austerity works inthe UK and have not seen that here.

@ElspethFlashman

Lot of people on this thread don't seem to live in Ireland.

Oh well. Always the same on MN.

I do

So do I. And I replied to your completely uninformed post on 3rd level education, which you failed to acknowledge.

You have spouted a lot of incorrect information so perhaps take a closer look at your own sources 🙇🏻‍♀️

I moved back as a teacher which is much better here regarding workload, holidays and pay. I'm not too informed regarding other industries.
Generally costs, food etc are higher. Overall I have more disposable cash here. Definitely more relaxed attitude regarding work/life balance.
Rents extortionate though property cheaper.

@Readandwalk

You're really talking out of your arse now

Rents extortionate though property cheaper.

It completely depends what part of the country you are talking about.

It's almost impossible for middle-income families to purchase in Dublin or the greater Dublin area now.

If you move to eg Limerick (where I'm from originally), it's much more affordable, both to rent & buy.

I'm sure you've some experience, yes, but the whole country doesn't operate according to your lived experience.

@EarringsandLipstick - And even then Ochon it doesn't work - as Éire just doesn't exist as Gaeilge, if you try to use it.

No, but it is the official name of the country as Gaeilge.

No need to insult me. Generally property is cheaper. Outside Dublin granted. How am I talking out of my arse?

Lots of people are generalizing. To be very specific then. Rent in Dublin Louth Wicklow and Wexfird are very high. I can sign a treaty if truth on this because I or my family/friends rent in these
specific places.

My sister who has never worked doesn't pay any rent as she gets it paid for along with her benifits. To be very specific this is in Navan.

Happy now?

@EarringsandLipstick I have friends in Li.erick who pay as much rent as they did in London.

You really are talking out of your arse assuming your experience is everyone's.

[quote OchonAgusOchonO]**@EarringsandLipstick* - And even then Ochon it doesn't work - as Éire just doesn't exist as Gaeilge, if you try to use it.*

No, but it is the official name of the country as Gaeilge.[/quote]
That wasn't my point (and I made that point in my post)

The poster I replied to talked about being 'from Éire'. This construction doesn't exist. It's never used, and is not the name of the country in English, as you say.

If you argue (as the other poster did!) that it's the 'official' name in Irish, you need to look at its construction in Irish - and it can't be used. So it doesn't work for anyone, in either English or Irish, to say they are from Éire.

That was the point I was making.

I have friends in Li.erick who pay as much rent as they did in London.

Nonsense.

And your spelling & sentence construction is appalling, even allowing for phone typos.

Your sneery comments about those on social welfare are awful.

[quote OchonAgusOchonO]**@EarringsandLipstick* - And even then Ochon it doesn't work - as Éire just doesn't exist as Gaeilge, if you try to use it.*

No, but it is the official name of the country as Gaeilge.[/quote]
Yes but there is an associated history of the UK refusing to recognise the name Ireland and insisting it had to be Éire. Didn't officially change til '98. So I can see why using Éire when speaking English gets people's backs up...or worse, trying to insist that the name is Eire (burden). There's a lot of unspoken connotations there.

Rent in Dublin Louth Wicklow and Wexfird are very high. I can sign a treaty if truth on this because I or my family/friends rent in these specific places

I'm sure you can provide individual cases on all these places, but I can assure you, working on averages, rents in Louth are not high. It is true that they have grown, and as average salaries are lower there too, it could represent an expensive cost for those living there buy they still could not be described as 'high'.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/renting-in-louth-now-on-average-1228-38416494.html

I'm wondering if you live in Ireland at all.

Good point @SionnachRua

Yes but there is an associated history of the UK refusing to recognise the name Ireland and insisting it had to be Éire.

I agree and it pisses me off no end. I actually came across a British website recently that had Éire in its drop down list of countries. The ones that use Republic of Ireland annoy me enough (mainly because I look under I) but that really annoyed me. Spain, funnily enough, was listed under S, rather than E, so it was presumably a political decision. I bought elsewhere.

Ps

You really are talking out of your arse assuming your experience is everyone's.

I didn't.

I talked in terms of averages not my own personal experience.

I'm from Limerick. I live in Dublin. I didn't rent in Limerick.

@OchonAgusOchonO

Yes but there is an associated history of the UK refusing to recognise the name Ireland and insisting it had to be Éire.

I agree and it pisses me off no end. I actually came across a British website recently that had Éire in its drop down list of countries. The ones that use Republic of Ireland annoy me enough (mainly because I look under I) but that really annoyed me. Spain, funnily enough, was listed under S, rather than E, so it was presumably a political decision. I bought elsewhere.

I agree with this too!

Just to clarify - I am not suggesting that the pp's user of Éire was in any way accurate or acceptable in the way out was used. I merely pointed out that Éire is an acceptable term in some circumstances in Irish.

I have never heard anyone in Ireland say they are from Éire before. We do not use this name in this way for reasons outlined previously on this thread.

Ireland is a great country, like everywhere it has pros and cons.

My sister who has never worked doesn't pay any rent as she gets it paid for along with her benifits. To be very specific this is in Navan
Impossible. I see how it is a common misconception similarly in the UK folk assume housing association houses are free, they are not.

With Covid and Brexit nearby all our lives may change dramatically especially re: jobs, benefits, opportunities for self-employment survival. Taxes may go up. Benefits may be slowly reduced or removed. I cannot see any Governments sustaining the status quo long term.

@EarringsandLipstick, please point out were I sneered at people on benifits? I gave soecificexampkes of family on benifits.

@EmeraldShamrock How is this impossible? She has been in the welfare system since the early 90s. In my experience those who are in that system for some years do not get the same scrutiny.

Regarding PP and rent in Louth. Drogheda is very expensive to rent in.

Having lived in the London/Kent region for 20 years and now in the East of ROI my experience is valid. Though @Earringsandlipstick seems go think its acceptable to I slyly me and accuss me of sneering people on benifits
Quite the opposite.

Whatever your decision OP OP good luck
Not everyone living here is as arrogant, keen to discount others and plain right rude as #Earringsandlipstick.

@EarringsandLipstick, look at how you have to jump on every post with false accusations. You discount people's experiences, accuse them of saying things they haven't and insult them.

You are coming across as truly horrible. Pitiful really.

I think it's the most amazing country in the world , no bias lol!!!
I was born in London and I love the UK too.

The cost of living is very high here. We live in a nice area of south Dublin, we have a family income of over 170k ( euro ) but we really don't consider ourselves rich or have loads of money left over every month. That sounds mad but it's true ! I would consider we have a very high standard of living though .

Dublin is not conservative at all. My kids attend local Gaelscoileanna and never made sacraments as we are atheist . No issue whatsoever. Very few religious people here any more. They just say they are Catholic but don't practise. So if you see stats that say 90 percent of people are Catholic it doesn't mean most people actually attend mass etc. It's a weird kind of hypocrisy .

I think the education system is very good here. I am a primary teacher so again no bias!!!

So I think if you are aware of the high cost of living then go for it. Or live outside Dublin. Good luck !

@FoodieToo as teacher I agree having taught in both UK and Ireland, both for many years. Partially I think to how teachers are treated and perceived. Teachers are not burnt out with constant bureaucracy and scrutiny. More energy to focus on teaching. I'm post primary.