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Should I lend them 10k?

355 replies

SupineSlumber · 24/11/2020 21:16

My parents, in their 60s, are planning on moving house. They’ve found somewhere that they like, and they want to buy it outright with cash, without having to wait to sell their own house first (although they said they hope to sell as soon as possible). However, they don’t have the necessary amount: they have 100k in savings, and are looking to borrow another 100k from selected family members/close friends (not exactly sure as they haven’t told me but I can hazard a guess). They’re very stubborn and are adamant that this is the only way they can secure the house that they love, without being part of a chain etc. Selling their own house would effectively cover the cost of one they’re moving to so they have that as an option but they don’t want it.

They asked me how much I could lend them, and it’s comfortably about 10K. But now I’m thinking this whole thing might be a bad idea. I don’t know who they’ll be borrowing the rest of the 90k from and I don’t want to audited as part of that process (not that there’s anything to hide, but it just seems very messy). Also it just feels extremely indulgent to me, to try to be in the position of a cash buyer whilst roping in lots of people to fund that through loans. What if their house doesn’t sell as easily as they think it will?

Am thinking of withdrawing the offer on the basis that it might not be financially prudent, but I know they’ll be hugely hurt. WWYD?

(NC just in case)

OP posts:
RandomMess · 24/11/2020 21:28

Tell them to get a bridging loan... only not from you from a mortgage lender!!

glassshoes · 24/11/2020 21:29

No way. They want the security of not being in a chain, but want you to risk the security of your 10K. I wouldn't.

Ellmau · 24/11/2020 21:29

Say you've now realised you can't afford it.

Happygogoat · 24/11/2020 21:30

Big no am afraid. It's indulgent and frankly selfish to take cash off family and friends in the current/future economic situation when they could just sell their house first and not burden anyone. That's real life.

Their house could take ages to sell and they would be picky with offers with no motive. Plus clearly they don't think it would sell quickly if this is their plan?! Why is that?

Also, with presumably a number of people to pay back, you might be bottom of the pile with a comparatively "small" amount and being close family.

Don't normally advocate this but if you think they can't/won't respect the truth then fib if you must - work have instigated pay cuts and you just can't afford it now, sorry. Not worth a big fallout but extremely cheeky of them to be putting this on other people.

Also when buying the money all needs verifying etc as you say so depending on the various lenders that might take ages vs just getting house on market and going through a process!

user17425642134531 · 24/11/2020 21:30

when I mentioned how much I was prepared to lend, and that I have other considerations (job loss risk, need to have 6 months with of living expenses in the bank) - they tried to convince me to go even higher!

Hell no. That's not just stubbornness, that's greed and selfishness too.

Snog · 24/11/2020 21:31

I would lend the money as I'd get it back when they sell their house. Get the agreement drawn up by a solicitor if you are worried at all.

Nottherealslimshady · 24/11/2020 21:32

They have the means to do it themselves but want others to shoulder the risk.

Sciurus83 · 24/11/2020 21:32

They aren't rich enough to be cash buyers. Therefore they will not be and the sooner their friends and family disavow them of this ridiculous notion the better!

DelphineWalsh · 24/11/2020 21:32

They need a bridging loan.

Smellbellina · 24/11/2020 21:32

I only needed to read the title to know YANBU...
But then I read your OP, personally I would for my DP’s, just not anyone else!

BonnieDundee · 24/11/2020 21:33

With your update they sound extremely entitled and once they have your money they may find a good reason to feel entitled to keep it.

Dont do it. Your situation may.change and what if you need that money and.they havent.got it to pay you back? The relationship will.never be the same.

Tbh i cant imagine any parent being so happy to take advantage of their.DC in such a greedy and.grasping manner.

BorderlineHappy · 24/11/2020 21:35

What if they dont get the amount they are expecting from selling their house.

Its too much of a risk.I think if they were 10k short and you would get it back soon then maybe. But its fishy as fuck.

katy1213 · 24/11/2020 21:36

I shouldn't think you'll be the only one to say no!

Taciturn · 24/11/2020 21:36

If you do go ahead and loan the money, and I am not saying that you should, do make it a condition that you are added as a caveat on the house deeds - like any mortgage provider. If the house is sold, your permission will be required and funds returned to you.

Cherrysoup · 24/11/2020 21:37

Sheer madness not to have an offer on their house first. That is normal operating procedure!

Ginger153 · 24/11/2020 21:38

I loaned my parent money to help buy a house but we got a legal agreement in place and a charge put on the property so it couldn't be sold without the money coming back to me, a bit like a mortgage but with me as the lender. It was the right thing to do and worked only with the right paperwork so there was clarity around assets for inheritance purposes or future sale. It also provided a clear paper trail. If they're not willing to do something similar then I wouldn't lend it. We had a mutual agreement and good legal advice that has stood the test of time and life changes.

helloxhristmas · 24/11/2020 21:39

No no no no no

NewlyGranny · 24/11/2020 21:40

You need to consider where you would be in the queue if their property sold for less than they expected. As immediate family, you might well come last!

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 24/11/2020 21:40

Just came on to add my resounding no to the thread.

These are uncertain times-what if you needed that money in the not too distant future?

It will all end in tears...

Meraas · 24/11/2020 21:41

They are so deluded and entitled! Maybe they’re hoping to rent out their original house for extra income? Idiots!

Aesopfable · 24/11/2020 21:41

If you do this, put it on a formal footing, including repayment terms, interest rate and ideally a charge over their current home.

SupineSlumber · 24/11/2020 21:41

@BorderlineHappy

What if they dont get the amount they are expecting from selling their house.

Its too much of a risk.I think if they were 10k short and you would get it back soon then maybe. But its fishy as fuck.

They’re completely blasé about it - dismissed any of my concerns about the market being slow or them not being able to sell as readily as they think.

I’ll mention the idea of a bridging loan but no doubt they’ll dismiss that too.

Writing out this all out readily solidifies why I shouldn’t have agreed, but parents asked for something and I didn’t fully think it through, I guess.

OP posts:
Ellie56 · 24/11/2020 21:41

No. Just no.

FippertyGibbett · 24/11/2020 21:43

No, don’t do it.

namechanger0989 · 24/11/2020 21:44

As someone who helped out my own dad and then got completely screwed over by him even though he was the last person in the world I thought would do that to me, I would say don't do it!
However, on the other hand I am a nice person and so I probably would do it anyway.

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