AIBU to be shocked that this still goes on in the USA? Trigger warning: corporal punishment in schools

[WoolieLiberal]

I feel completely sick seeing this. Apparently corporal punishment is still legal in the Deep South.

Sick fucking country!

So glad to be British.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/04/16/us/georgia-school-paddle-video/index.html

I would go to jail before I let someone paddle my DS.

That mother just taught her son that she will not always do everything in her power to protect him from harm - she put herself before her child.

Just awful.

Absolute psychos, beating kids.

That mother just taught her son that she will not always do everything in her power to protect him from harm - she put herself before her child.

Very, very harsh. What’s he going to do with him mum in prison?

Corporal punishment in schools has been banned since that event. They are currently trying to pass the law against parents smacking their children.

@Mcnotty

Corporal punishment in schools has been banned since that event. They are currently trying to pass the law against parents smacking their children.

Is Wikipedia wrong?

"As of 2018, corporal punishment is still legal in private schools in every U.S. state except New Jersey and Iowa, legal in public schools in nineteen states and practiced in fifteen. Corporal punishment in school is illegal in Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand, which makes the USA the only western-world country where corporal punishment in school is still allowed."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States

Mcnotty got this hilariously wrong.

It’s the former Soviet Republic of Georgia that recently banned corporal punishment of children in every setting.

The third-world US state of Georgia still has it along with 17 other states.

It was a current news article that linked to that. I just felt so sick that I had to raise awareness of it still going on.

It's only 20-odd years since corporal punishment was made illegal in UK private schools, 30-odd for state schools. It's still lawful in the home - a friend is a TA at a school where they can't tell parents about kids misbehaviour at school as they know the kids will be beaten at home.

Plenty of the UK isn't that far ahead of the worst of the US.

@PrincessNutNut I agree it's fighting against a very different breed of maniacs who love and worship their guns more than anything and I can't see anyone confiscating them either with a civil war so you do the best you can to vote and protest. Painting every American as identical thinkers as some have on this thread is really short sighted there's millions of us living here who hate many archaic policies

Confiscate without a civil war

@WoolieLiberal Have you ever set foot in Georgia? I live in the capital city of Atlanta and Biden won the election here. I really despise your description of my state as third world. I have never lived anywhere as diverse as this area. My neighborhood is multicultural and my coworkers hail from all over the globe. Expand tour mind and horizons some

I have an aquaintance in Arkansas. Some of the things she says about child rearing and discipline out there are genuinely appalling

We had this in school when I was young ( I'm 67)
The naughtiest boys got it all the time and it was done in front of the whole school. It scared the life out of me.
Thank God we've moved away from this sort of punishment in this country. It's barbaric

That’s so grim. Awful.

The naughtiest boys got it all the time

Proof, as if more was needed, of how well it works!

Roald Dahl's Boy has haunted me ever since I read it aged around 8 or so. He is very clear in it that he lays so much emphasis on school beatings because he remained so appalled, his entire life, that teachers and older boys were allowed literally to wound children, causing laceration, bleeding and deep bruising. He said he never got over it and nor would I if it happened to me. I've never got over merely reading his accounts of it.

@FrangipaniBlue everything you said. With bells on.

Wish to fuck I never watched that video.

EKGEMS

This was not a video of a parent or some random nutter.

It was an employee of the state who was carrying a large, terrifying looking implement, made for no other purpose than inflicting pain, who was about to systematically strike a screaming terrified five year old boy, in front of his mother.

Sanctioned by the state and being done by the state.

I stand by my view that a state that allows this and does this is third world, and if you’re offended by that, frankly I don’t care.

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Americans sound similar to us, pretty much everything else is different. There is such a closed mind to the rest of the world and true belief that the American way really is the best. It's really quite frightening how well the citizens are indoctrinated, starting with pledging their allegiance every morning, and idolising the military. Very scary stuff. And when you sprinkle religion into the mix it gets worse. Then they celebrate their 'freedom' when nothing is further from the truth. Nothing they do surprises me. Horrible place to live.

Given the crazy pro-gun campaigning that takes place every time there's another gun massacre, I don't think there's a strong enough movement to effect the necessary changes to counter them

The gun lobby in the USA is very rich and very powerful, like other lobbying groups.

The vast majority of Americans support gyn control and affordable healthcare. Unfortunately, money talks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States

America is living 70 years behind the rest of the world. Right fucking mess. Obviously you're not being unreasonable to think a teacher shouldn't be allowed to beat a child with a bat.

@ShakeaHettyFeather in the UK you're not allowed to use instruments or leave a mark I believe.

No one should ever be allowed to hit children though. Its barbaric and teaches them nothing.

Just wanted to add, that the Deep South is like a different country compared to most of the rest of the USA.
Living in New York City is like another world compared to living in rural Georgia or Mississippi.

[quote Nottherealslimshady]@ShakeaHettyFeather in the UK you're not allowed to use instruments or leave a mark I believe.

No one should ever be allowed to hit children though. Its barbaric and teaches them nothing.[/quote]
I agree - except I’d go further and say it does touch them something - that it’s acceptable to use violence/aggression as a form of discipline. And modelling is powerful.

It isn’t legal in the U.K. only parts.

Illegal in Scotland.

Set to be illegal in Wales from 2022.

In the home that is ^

It was banned in state schools 34 years ago in the UK, that is a huge amount of time, they are not comparable. I went to private school in the 80's and 90's and it wasn't something they used. Equally, my brother's school was the same, I don't think it was that common, even if allowed.