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Celebrating adult birthdays

85 replies

NeonIcedcoffee · 23/11/2020 00:17

Inspired by another thread. Why are loads of mumsnetters so down on adults enjoying their birthdays? Do you not like to have joy and celebration in your life? Do you not like to have fun? Is it deeply uncouth to enjoy one's self on your birthday and I missed the memo?

My view is, life is at times hard so take all the joy and celebration you can. This means enjoying your own birthday and that of loved ones.

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PucePanther · 23/11/2020 09:38

Celebrating your birthday is great. But don’t act like a whiny spoiled child about it. I’ve seen actual adults whinging that they can’t possibly go to work on their birthday. Meanwhile little kids go to school on their birthday.

GoldfishParade · 23/11/2020 09:41

Are you talking about the thread in which an adult woman was upset that her mother wasnt prepared to get on a flight to spend her non big birthday with her?

I think when you're expecting people to massively inconvenience themselves for your birthday, you've crossed a line.

Expecting a gift and call from your mother, fine
Expecting her to catch a flight when she has a busy month, not fine

TurquoiseDragon · 23/11/2020 09:44

@thepeopleversuswork

GalaxyCookieCrumble

"We are grown up not precious little kids, special Birthdays deserve celebrating otherwise any other bday is just another day."

Says who?

Sorry, I forgot, women are supposed to sacrifice any joy or agency in their own lives on the altar of motherhood. What a depressing attitude.

I "forgot" my birthday for most of the nine years I was married to a miserable bastard who thought I should count myself lucky if he cooked my dinner on my birthday.

Now I'm happily divorced I'm determined to make as much fuss of myself on my birthday as I possibly can. Not going to be a primadonna and insist that people disrupt their lives for it but also damned if I'm going to pretend I don't want a bit of consideration and love.

I agree with you.

I, too, have an ex who was good at forgetting birthdays. Basically, he didn't give a shit about mine, yet got so upset if I dare forget his, or if the present wasn't deemed suitable.

I feel many women want to have their birthdays acknowledged, because so many partners take them for granted the rest of the year and they'd like to have one day on which they can feel like people care about them.

And most of these women wouldn't be OTT either. A meal out or takeaway, card, a gift and a little TLC (in my case, I'd have loved to put my feet up and have someone else make my cups of tea for once).

There is a middle ground, and we shouldn't be having a go at people who do want that bit of appreciation being shown to them.

MessAllOver · 23/11/2020 09:58

Do all those people who disagree about celebrating their birthdays take the same approach to their husband's/partner's birthday?

You see, I make a small effort on DH's birthday...I cook his favourite meal or book a restaurant, buy a bottle of something nice, organise presents from DS and me...

Why shouldn't I expect the same? I'm not asking for a huge party or expensive jewellery or anything.

NeonIcedcoffee · 23/11/2020 10:01

It's interesting to me that people seem to go to the assumptions or thoughts about people being bratty. I've never experienced this in real life. Often the posts re birthdays are not examples of this either obviously there are occasional ones! But what I'm talking about isn't some being a brat. I'm talking about somone saying they wanted to get a take away and their husband wants to play on the x box. Or somone wanted to go for a walk with the kids and grandparents but the grandparents need to sort the garage out.

Yes the post which inspired my post was about the op's mum visiting. I don't want to make this a thread about a thread though. But within that thread what I was interested in was that people felt she was being a child even wanting to mark her birthday. Anyway as I say I don't want to taat and I'm sure if posters have sting feelings on her thread they can post there.

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Christmasbiscuit · 23/11/2020 10:04

I've just spent a birthday on my own in lockdown and it was miserable. Will definitely be celebrating next year.

TulipsTwoLips · 23/11/2020 10:08

I don't see anything wrong with people who don't really celebrate their birthday as an adult. It's not about not allowing joy. They obviously get joy in different ways to you.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 23/11/2020 10:21

@GoldfishParade

Are you talking about the thread in which an adult woman was upset that her mother wasnt prepared to get on a flight to spend her non big birthday with her?

I think when you're expecting people to massively inconvenience themselves for your birthday, you've crossed a line.

Expecting a gift and call from your mother, fine
Expecting her to catch a flight when she has a busy month, not fine

In fairness her mother offered to do this - but then backed out saying "It might upset your sister because she's getting married a few week later and we can't detract from the wedding".

I think when people here talk about "whiny spoilt adult brats" they misunderstand - if your DH promised you a slap up meal and diamond ring, has promised this all year and you've been looking forward to it. Then the day comes and what you have is supermarket flowers bought last night because he forgot - it's not spoilt and whiny to go "oh I'm so lucky still".

NeonIcedcoffee · 23/11/2020 10:28

@TulipsTwoLips

I don't see anything wrong with people who don't really celebrate their birthday as an adult. It's not about not allowing joy. They obviously get joy in different ways to you.
But there's lots of people on here who think others shouldn't celebrate their birthday. If you don't want to do it don't. But it's about people thinking those who do are spoilt and childish.
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Ragwort · 23/11/2020 10:29

Mess I would ask my DH how he would like to celebrate his birthday and not presume to know for him IYSWIM. He was 60 this year so obviously any big celebrations weren't possible but I would want him to decide if (in normal times) he wanted a party, weekend away, night out with his mates etc. It's his birthday, not mine. I would be happy to facilitate his choice but I loathe the idea of other adults deciding 'what's right' for another adult.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 23/11/2020 10:30

No there's lots of people on here who think others shouldnt expect the people around them to give up a lot of their time to celebrate birthdays.

ddl1 · 23/11/2020 10:47

I don't judge others for doing whatever they enjoy; and am happy to celebrate their birthdays. However, it's VERY important to me that I should be allowed to forget mine; and that no one must EVER acknowledge it. To me, a birthday is mainly 'new age day' and all about people making a big fuss of the fact that I am getting older. I never liked that aspect of birthdays even as a child: I did like presents(!) but I hated all the emphasis on 'now you're 6', 'now you're 7'. etc. (and therefore more will be expected of you - especially with regard to the physical things that I found difficult, due to undiagnosed co-ordination difficulties). And as an adult, it's a reminder of the approach of declining health and death - especially this year, with all the news about how the older you are, the more likely you are to get Covid severely. I think this side of adult birthdays is worse nowadays than in the past. At least the way I remember it, my parents and other adults when I was a child celebrated their birthdays as such, but without mention of specific ages beyond the 21st. In recent years, there is an increasing emphasis on 'significant' 'milestone' birthdays, where your age is the focus of the celebration. No thanks, I know we all get older, but I don't need it rubbed in my face and treated as a big social occasion. Also, I hate it when people (usually NOT family members, who are generally understanding, but relatively casual friends) don't accept that it's so important to me that my birthday be forgotten, and act as though either they have a right to force me to accept birthday conventions against my will, or as though I'm playing some sort of coy game and doing the birthday equivalent of 'playing hard to get'. Fortunately, nowadays it usually doesn't happen as I don't let people know when it is, and GDPR makes it hard for anyone to go behind my back to find out. Also, I dislike the attitude (which I encounter more on MN than in real life!) that you show that you care about someone mainly by how much effort you put into their birthday: If they forget your birthday, or even just fail to give you a sufficiently 'thoughtful' gift, then this is absolutely unforgivable, however much they show they care every day of the year. If, on the other hand, they are selfish or indifferent every day, they can make up for it by splashing out on your birthday. I feel very strongly that caring is shown by how you treat someone every day, not on a 'special' day. Of course, if someone has let you know that they value their birthday strongly, and you forget or ignore it, then that is inconsiderate, but that doesn't mean that birthdays and other special days are the most important thing in all relationships. Wow, that was a book; but I literally have had nightmares about people pressing my birthday on me! Of course, I am always happy to celebrate other people's, if that's what they want.

ZombieAttack · 23/11/2020 11:32

They is always a thread where the OP posts that her DH and/or kids have forgotten her birthday again, despite making so much effort for everyone else’s and how upset she is. Someone will jump in with ‘well you’re an adult, no one should celebrate their birthday beyond the age of 18’. Every sodding time.

If you don’t want to celebrate your birthday, fine, crack on. It doesn’t mean another adult can’t,

It’s also nice to have a bit appreciation and thought. I never understand why on these threads the answer to having your birthday forgotten is ‘go out and buy yourself something’, or ‘take the kids out for the day’. None of these solve anything. Actually what the OP should be doing, instead of crying ‘silent tears’ and the same thing happening next year, is to clearly tell her DH how shit they’ve made them feel and to stop making a big effort for his birthday. Buying yourself something doesn’t solve the problem, it’s nice to have someone else think about you. Taking the kids out for the day? The OP probably does that anyway, and would maybe like a break and a bit of thought. And yes I guess it’s probably representative of the entire relationship, but FFS we as women are allowed to want to feel appreciated, thought about and wanted, outside of just being a mother and wife.

Same with Christmas Day.

NeonIcedcoffee · 23/11/2020 11:33

@ddl1 it's up to you if you don't want to celebrate your birthday. It would be shitty to make your press you on the issue. But I've never seen the thing you talk about where people show they care byhowthebehave on birthdays. It doesn't let you off for shitty behaviour just because you pull the stops out on a birthday. I've also never seen anyone in here think like that.

I do agree you show value, love and respect by demonstrating it day to day.

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ddl1 · 23/11/2020 14:28

But I've never seen the thing you talk about where people show they care byhowthebehave on birthdays.

I might have expressed it a bit strongly, but I've actually seen people (online but not MN) complain about family members who dislike birthdays by saying 'But a birthday isn't about you; it's about letting other people show that they care'

There are people on this thread saying that they aren't high maintenance on other days, but they want people to 'think about them' or 'treat them like a queen' on one day a year. If that is what they prefer, or are willing to settle for, it is totally up to them; but for me, I want to be treated with consideration every day, not in a special way one day a year.

In any case, it's the thrusting my age in my face that I absolutely hate. I don't think that I hated birthdays QUITE as much before 'big' 'milestone' birthdays became such a thing.

As regards the attitudes of others to their own: the one thing that I dislike is people who are intolerant of those who cannot attend a distant birthday party because of their own family commitments or because their own health or financial issues prevent their travelling at that time (I am referring to friends; not close relatives) and who don't consider you as a true friend unless you were prepared to sacrifice everything to attend their BIRTHDAY PARTY! Otherwise, if you enjoy celebrating your own birthday, great!

Macncheeseballs · 23/11/2020 14:37

I agree with you op, I think the same about mothers/fathers day too. Whats wrong with celebrating people?

ddl1 · 23/11/2020 14:39

Actually what the OP should be doing, instead of crying ‘silent tears’ and the same thing happening next year, is to clearly tell her DH how shit they’ve made them feel

I do agree on that. If your partner or other close person is repeatedly doing something that hurts you - whether birthday-related or not - it's much better to tell them openly, rather than crying inwardly or seething within yourself.

we as women are allowed to want to feel appreciated, thought about and wanted, outside of just being a mother and wife.

I agree on that too, but I suppose I just prefer that family and close friends show their appreciation and thought for me every day, and not particularly on a 'special day'. In fact, I appreciate gifts and gestures of appreciation much more when they're spontaneous than in response to a particular 'special day',

ddl1 · 23/11/2020 14:41

To clarify the above - I don't mean that I want presents and celebrations every day! Just that they should be respectful and considerate of me every day. Including being respectful and considerate of my wish to avoid my birthday.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 23/11/2020 14:44

I like acknowledgement but not fanfare. I wouldn't care to have it forgotten, that would be upsetting, but some token presents and a card from my closest friends, husband and kid are appreciated, as is a nice meal out and a some champagne. Pre-kids, husband and I would celebrate with a nice trip abroad for an '0' birthday.

I don't want breakfast in bed or be addressed as 'Milady'. I don't expect every single one of my friends and family to drop everything, get their backsides over to my house, festoon the place with bunting or undergo that bizarre cake-candle ceremony that's great for kids but embarrassing for grown adults. If the day falls midweek I also have no problem going for a meal at the nearest weekend rather than celebrating on the actual day.

As my old Granny used to say, 'there's a difference between farting and tearing your arse'.

AlexisIsMySpiritAnimal · 23/11/2020 14:54

Cos people on mumsnet like to play who's the most miserable-est.
You can't win, even if you post the most soul-bearing, heartbreaking story someone will be along in a hot minute to tell you to get a grip.

HTH Grin

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Moanranger · 23/11/2020 15:11

My own personal view is that birthdays - balloons, clowns, pony rides, musical chairs, etc, - are for children. I do not lay that view on others. My partner & children usually give me presents, cards, meal out, & for that I am grateful. I very purposefully do not have my B-day on FB (for the above reason). I am very bad at remembering others birthdays, with the exception of immediate family ( I am infamous in my family for forgetting my sons 21st!) So within the family, yes, happy to celebrate, but do not like to be guilt-tripped into making a big hoo-ha over other adults birthdays.

NeonIcedcoffee · 23/11/2020 15:54

I get what people are saying with each to their own. But there's a lot of miserable replys.

@Moanranger what are the things you listed just for children?

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EternalOptimist7 · 23/11/2020 16:21

I think each to their own. Personally I like to be made a fuss of on my birthday, even though I’m feeling a bit down at the thought of being halfway to 60. It’s going to be pretty low - key this year but I’ll have a cake made by DH & Chinese delivered. DD11 isn’t brilliant with other people’s birthdays ( she was when she was younger). She’s adopted so we think it’s connected to that & finding it difficult for the attention to be on someone else.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 23/11/2020 16:51

I get celebrating special ones but normal adult birthdays I think are just for the household. I don’t get why adults get upset when friends and family don’t make a fuss. I see birthdays as something children celebrate along with 18/21st.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 23/11/2020 17:08

I'm interested to read about the post that inspired this thread, OP. I do recall seeing one recently in which the OP was expected to host some brouhaha for her MiL's birthday a mere ten days after being bereaved of her own. She hadn't even been able to hold her funeral yet.

Now that was appalling, and might well have been met with some 'grow up and stop being so childish, it might be your birthday but the world isn't not all about you' responses.

As with anything, context makes a difference.

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