To think Rebekah Vardy has no chance?

[StillCoughingandLaughing]

Her case hinges on claiming someone has somehow hacked her account; be that someone she employs or someone who has somehow done it at random. Colleen Rooney very, very deliberately (and now infamously) stated ‘It’s... Rebekah Vardy’s account’.

She’s suing for libel, yet she hasn’t been personally accused. That wording was not an accident. Surely unless she can somehow prove that the fake stories were not accessed via her account, she has no case?

@PaperTowels ahh l see

@ChocBeforeCock

Plus when you follow someone on instagram it doesn't usually come with a confidentiality clause so why would you expect confidentiality?

I think you expect your mates not to sell stories on you, same way if you have a natter on the phone there’s no confidentiality clause but you don’t expect to read about it in the papers.

The truth or otherwise of the allegation was always going to be the juicy bit of this... hope they don’t settle

But, equally, if someone did sell stories about you to the papers I'm not sure there would be any legal issue, unless you were losing income or something like that because of the stories. It wouldn't go to court.

However, if you libel someone by accusing them of selling stories - then you end up at the wrong end of a court case. Well done Coleen?

From what CR tweeted, I, along with everyone else, believed RV had passed on the lies that CR had made up. Which is exactly what CR wanted to happen.
If you don’t want anyone to know about your private life, don’t post on social media. CR needs to stop being the playground bully just because she’s got a rich husband to hide behind

Agreed @PaperTowels - I don’t think if RV had sold the stories she would have been acting unlawfully and I don’t think CR is suggesting otherwise. But as you say she’s gone and put herself in quite some bother!

This is what happens when people who ain't the brightest - and who've come from nothing - are given too much money.
They have no class.

Could the Sun editor be made to tell the court who the source of the stories was? That would surely settle it, no? Or is that seen as restricting the press? As far as I can tell, the Sun's not in any trouble for doing it, they're just trying to determine the truth of who the leak was.

@PrincessNutNut

Could the Sun editor be made to tell the court who the source of the stories was? That would surely settle it, no? Or is that seen as restricting the press? As far as I can tell, the Sun's not in any trouble for doing it, they're just trying to determine the truth of who the leak was.

Aside from the principle of protecting sources, if the Sun did disclose their source then they can kiss goodbye to anyone else leaking to them.

Aside from the principle of protecting sources, if the Sun did disclose their source then they can kiss goodbye to anyone else leaking to them.

So theoretically, it could end in Victoria Newton going to prison if Rooney tries to call her as a witness, the court orders her to disclose the source and she refuses and is found to be in contempt of court? I know that's unlikely, but it's possible?

I guess so, hypothetically.

Coleen really has played a blinder here, hasn't she?!

@PaperTowels

I guess so, hypothetically.

Coleen really has played a blinder here, hasn't she?!

Why didn't she lawyer up before posting her statement??

I guess it isn't in Rooney's interests either to piss the Sun right off...

Would CR not have to prove that she told no-one about her fake posts (and hence the leak could not have come from someone on her side)? How would she even prove that?

@Butchyrestingface

Would CR not have to prove that she told no-one about her fake posts (and hence the leak could not have come from someone on her side)? How would she even prove that?

You can't prove that you didn't tell someone something.

And this is why legal stuff is so interesting. It often looks so straightforward at the outset, but when it starts getting broken down into the very necessary details and nuances of the law and how it is applied....

This matter is so important at the moment, I think we need a Government briefing every evening.

You can't prove that you didn't tell
someone something.

Well, no. . But by that token, I don't see how CR can show that it was RV (or her ............"account") who did.

Mr Justice Warby also ordered Mrs Rooney to pay Mrs Vardy just under £23,000 in costs for yesterday's hearing.

CR's already had to pay out, and to her own legal team as well of course. Still, I guess Wayne's wallet can take it.

This is what happens when people who ain't the brightest - and who've come from nothing - are given too much money.
They have no class.

That's a really nasty thing to say and not very classy, either.

@unmarkedbythat

This is what happens when people who ain't the brightest - and who've come from nothing - are given too much money. They have no class.

That's a really nasty thing to say and not very classy, either.

I might be indirectly responsible. I told an earlier poster who jumped the shark a bit too soon with their character to go away, name change and try again. I did tell them to make it a bit more subtle and plausible, though...

@unmarkedbythat

This is what happens when people who ain't the brightest - and who've come from nothing - are given too much money. They have no class.

That's a really nasty thing to say and not very classy, either.

I didn't know who Rebekah Vardy was until I saw and heard details on the news earlier. I certainly wouldn't consider her to be very 'classy', she's a nobody and an upstart, not a very nice one either.

@user1481840227 I can't quote you but....

That's not the same. Loads of stories are posted with a source says.

These stories were deliberately leaked to sniff the rat out.

@jessstan1 l hadn't heard of her before all of this either. That doesn't make her a 'nobody' 🙄

Isn’t this the same tactic Prince William used to use to see if he could trust his friends or not. Tell unique stories to people and see which ones ended up in the news of the world. Although he didn’t then take to Twitter to publically accuse anyone afterwards. Presumably just quietly removed them from his social circle which is probably what Colleen should have done.

I think it is well-established that journalists don't disclose sources, and nobody expects them to. It is a principle that our institutions and leaders should be open to scrutiny, and so the fourth estate of the press is permitted to promise confidentiality to those who go to them.( Possibly, sources who provide important information, as oppose to gossip, might legally be expected to presume they have a greater right to anonymity.)

I think CR hasn't appreciated that for a sting to be said to provide conclusive proof of betrayal, you have to scientifically go about ensuring nobody else knows the stories. The sting was supposed to be a front to explain how she knew.

I don't think RV sold stories - she'd be foolish to say she hadn't, if someone who worked for New International could and might, at any time, prove that she had. Selling, no, but she might have gossiped a bit. So what. What does it matter. Nobody, the famous or not famous, puts sensitive personal stuff on personal Instagram to a group of what are essentially acquaintances. In the past, it was probably mundane stuff. And wags know gossip is going to get out always, from shops, hairdressers etc

It's getting nearly as bad as they who must not be mentioned. On second thoughts it isn't.