Australia commited horrific war crimes in Afghanistan

[Cam77]

Oh my God can’t believe what I’m hearing. The Anglosphere nations love to cast themselves in the role white knight “bringing peace and democracy to the world” but scratch beneath the surface and it’s nearly always just self-interest via bloodshed and even war crimes.

Your post has no context. Not everyone has read the same articles as you or seen the news. A link is usual.

I’m not aware of Australia’s role in Afghanistan, but I wouldn’t be surprised at hearing any country had committed war crimes.

What country are you from?

Just googled. I'm not shocked at all. This is what men do. It's men who start wars and men who kill innocent people in general. Send young men off to countries filled with vulnerable people and give them power and weapons and this is what happens.

That's war. Its all horrific. Not one 'side' would come out well under scrutiny.

The levels humans will go to, to inflict pain and suffering on another is undeniably the worst trait we have.

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www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/nov/19/australian-soldiers-sas-war-crimes-afghanistan-australia-special-forces-inquiry-brereton-report-released-latest-live-updates

You could have done a 5 second google in half the time it took to write that comment. It’s headline news around the world.

Well I did didn't I? If you'd read before you posted you'd have seen that. I was merely pointing out that it's bad form to post a 'shocking' statement with no link to back it up.

Gosh. Its not jusf a few rouge testosterone driven incidents. That new recruits were actually encourged to shoot prisoners to get their first kill in and then covered up is horrifying.

The same things have been happening in US special units for decades as well and its embarassing how its dealt with. Bellends like Chris Kyle having love in films made about them. I'd hand them over to the Afghan government with a murder charge-an absolute joke for any army and the idea of SF.

The Australian Defence Force murdered a total (that we know of) of 39 unarmed civilians in twenty three separate incidents, as some kind of sick and twisted training/right of passage exercise.

Never knew Anglosphere cast themselves in the role white knight “bringing peace and democracy to the world” .

I'd have never thought of Australia that way at all. They have a poor history for treatment of "others" as far as I was aware.

Everyone has. Its horrific what we're doing. I feel like our countries are a gang of thugs.

Absolute scum.

The west seems to have been on the attack, with sort of utopian vision of enforced western democracy and social norms for all the world, as justification (kind of akin to the crusades really) for a century. We swapped straight from empire to this. Let nothing get in your way of enforcing your own norms, while abusing people and claiming natural reasources and disguising it as being the white saviour yet again.

I am not surprised but am once again disgusted.

History of war. Nothing productive about it, no matter how much countries try to create 'positive' roles for troops in order to redeploy them and rewrite the narratives. The whole of human history is this. Driven by nationalism, imperialism, ego, money, and masculinity. And fear.

It doesn’t surprise me at all.

This is exactly what our military does.

Recently had a colleague tell me his friends in the military needed no character building exercises as they were already of fine character.

It struck me as staggeringly naive.

As did all the posts last week about showing respect and coming from a ‘proud military family’.

People shut their eyes to this all the time.

This is exactly what our military does.

It's exactly what all military does I imagine.

We had to rebuild America's defenses - haha. Trillions stolen.

Watching this right now. How heartbreaking.

In the mid nineties my uni mate was dating an older man who ran a scuzzy bar in Camden. He was an ex soldier and had fought whatever the war was previously....forgive my ignorance, it was somewhere desert-like.

He showed her...a 19 year old posh girl from Belsize Park who'd led a sheltered life...he showed her photos of dead soldiers that had been put in humiliating positions.

Then she showed me.

She was traumatized. Looking back we should have taken them to the police. These were images of burned men with a beer in their hand etc.

Horrible. It doesn't surprise me that shit like this goes on at all

Who gives a shit? Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment. Terrorists who don't have any code of conduct and delight in the death and torture of "infidels". It's hardly a surprise that some soldiers might stray from the straight and narrow, it's just a part of war.

The important thing is, in western armies, the acts of questionable nature are few and far between, given how many members of the armed forces spend so much time in the theatre of war. The same can't be said for the terrorists on the other side, who, to a man, think nothing of beheading "infidels" and raping women.

14 year old unarmed civilians that they dont have room for on a helicopter are fine to murder then, contrmary? we had a name for people like you in the army

“This is exactly what our military does.”
If you are talking about Britain no it’s not, we have done terrible things but the Australians are being accused of very specific war crimes that Britain aren’t.

The UK does plenty of this sort of thing itself, so I don’t think we can be all pearl-clutchy over Australia doing it.

We just do a better job of covering it up, by-and-large.

@contrmary

Who gives a shit? Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment. Terrorists who don't have any code of conduct and delight in the death and torture of "infidels". It's hardly a surprise that some soldiers might stray from the straight and narrow, it's just a part of war.

The important thing is, in western armies, the acts of questionable nature are few and far between, given how many members of the armed forces spend so much time in the theatre of war. The same can't be said for the terrorists on the other side, who, to a man, think nothing of beheading "infidels" and raping women.

This is about soldiers killing civilians not terrorists.