Australia commited horrific war crimes in Afghanistan

[Cam77]

Oh my God can’t believe what I’m hearing. The Anglosphere nations love to cast themselves in the role white knight “bringing peace and democracy to the world” but scratch beneath the surface and it’s nearly always just self-interest via bloodshed and even war crimes.

It's a war situation, these types of things happen. There will be no such investigation on the Afghan or Taliban side of things ... you can be sure.

Also, remember our own troops have been responsible for atrocities in India, Kenya, Ireland, ..etc.. within living memory. That's what typically happens when soldiers go abroad...not just Aussies

Yes but we're talking about Australia in this instance. As in the past we've talked about Northern Ireland and Iraq. Australia cant point at big brother forever

the afghans are on our side, bluesky, there very much will be an investigation. These civillians were not Taliban, nor would it be any excuse if they were.

Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment.

Brave soldiers my foot. Barely literate oiks who wanted a decently paid job and were prepared to kill to get it, more like. They join up because they want a go at killing brown people.

@MaskingForIt

Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment.

Brave soldiers my foot. Barely literate oiks who wanted a decently paid job and were prepared to kill to get it, more like. They join up because they want a go at killing brown people.

What a shocking ignorant post.

@MaskingForIt

Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment.

Brave soldiers my foot. Barely literate oiks who wanted a decently paid job and were prepared to kill to get it, more like. They join up because they want a go at killing brown people.

This says more about your own ignorance.

As an Australian I'm completely unsurprised. If you've spent anytime in the company of 'manly' Australian men you'd know that's how they are and I'm actually shocked this hasn't come out sooner.

Look at Australia's history, not exactly all friendly mateship when people aren't white.

@user1473878824

Consider yourself lucky you haven’t worked with some of the people I have, then!

@Mustbe3ormorecharacters

No, it says more about the people I work with.

@contrmary that is the most racist thing I have had the misfortune to read in a long time.

These were not 'terrorists on the other side'. They were civilians. Innocent bystanders. Please read what these soldiers did. In one case they murdered, cut the throats of, two 14-year-olds who were walking down the road and dumped their bodies in the river. Other crimes they committed are so atrocious they have been redacted... for now.

Also disgusted that you have labelled the Western crimes as 'few and far between' but have labelled an entire country/countries as terrorists.

@MaskingForIt Could you share who you work with?

'These type of things happen'. Well yes, sadly. But that does not mean it is acceptable. War atrocities need to be investigated and we should not tolerate or excuse them or turn a blind eye. This is disgusting, shameful behaviour and I say that as an Australian.

Well Australia is quite racist so I'm not surprised they would treat foreign civilians in such a way.

UK too tbh.

@MaskingForIt

Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment.

Brave soldiers my foot. Barely literate oiks who wanted a decently paid job and were prepared to kill to get it, more like. They join up because they want a go at killing brown people.

Yes, that’s exactly what DS1, with 3 grade A A levels said when he went to join the army.

You’re incredibly ignorant

"Oh my God I can't believe what I'm hearing". Google the British army's role in Bloody Sunday in NI.

@MaskingForIt

Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment.

Brave soldiers my foot. Barely literate oiks who wanted a decently paid job and were prepared to kill to get it, more like. They join up because they want a go at killing brown people.

What an ignorant, hate filled perspective you have towards the military.

[quote MaskingForIt]@user1473878824

Consider yourself lucky you haven’t worked with some of the people I have, then![/quote]
... and I worked with the military during the first wave of Covid and we wouldn't have coped without them.

@contrmary

Who gives a shit? Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment. Terrorists who don't have any code of conduct and delight in the death and torture of "infidels". It's hardly a surprise that some soldiers might stray from the straight and narrow, it's just a part of war.

The important thing is, in western armies, the acts of questionable nature are few and far between, given how many members of the armed forces spend so much time in the theatre of war. The same can't be said for the terrorists on the other side, who, to a man, think nothing of beheading "infidels" and raping women.

Have you actually read the report @contrmary ?

These weren't terrorists.

They were civilians who were already captured and under Australian control.
It was a calculated murder of civilians to 'blood' young Australian soldiers.

Are you seriously trying to justify war crimes? Wow.

And FWIW I have family in the military some of whom have served in Afghanistan and they're disgusted, so no there is no 'justification' for murdering civilians or for your racist labelling of them as terrorists.

@FlatandFabulous

"Oh my God I can't believe what I'm hearing". Google the British army's role in Bloody Sunday in NI.

It was also terrible. But one army behaving terribly doesn't justify the behaviour of another doing the same.

Who gives a shit? Brave soldiers put into dangerous situations where they could be killed or maimed at any moment. Terrorists who don't have any code of conduct and delight in the death and torture of "infidels". It's hardly a surprise that some soldiers might stray from the straight and narrow, it's just a part of war.

I don't think you've read the link. This goes well beyond what is usual.

Everyone saying this is normal/to be expected is wrong. I agree that it's normal that there will be some random atrocities, but this is worse than that. This is systematic murder over a period of time as a result of an institutional culture, with new recruits being forced to join in.

@contrmary, I'm sure that you'd 'give a shit' if mainland UK could have foreign troops land and it was you and your children who could be raped and murdered. Then we'd be calling for a code of conduct to be stuck to. You will no doubt carry on with the 'I'm alright jack' attitude regardless of what anyone says. How is shooting an unarmed civilian brave? Are you happy to have child killers in charge of guns?

Your attitude is on a par with those white people that don't care about black people being murdered by the Police. You are putting a whole population of a country into the bracket of 'terrorist'.

Honestly the older I get the more I realise that on the whole, humans are generally extremely unpleasant towards each other given half the chance. I think society gives us a thin veneer of being nice but i am no longer surprised by anything sadly.

@Pyewhacket, we wouldn't cope without the Police, but we made institutional racism illegal. We also charge police officers with illegal acts. No doubt the Nurse, who thought that she was mercy killing those babies did lots of good deeds. What's your point?